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Morphological plurals are NOT optional in Lojban; they are not even (strict=
ly speaking) possible.=A0 You could make plural predicates (presumably plur=
alizing the first argument) by adding=A0 {zma, mau} maybe -- or the combina=
tive form of some numerical operator.=A0 But why, when syntactic plurals (w=
hen needed at all) are so easy (any of them).=A0 The other list is too odd =
to comment on, except to ask what would count as not synonyms if they are t=
he common or gloss words.=A0 "he/she/it" are English specific, and "our" pr=
obably is too; "because/for/be/has" are some ambiguous/vague as to be usele=
ss as guides to what you want and the others are just gismu.
I assume I have missed your point here.


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 From: la ki'es-di'es <buroq_mat@yahoo.co.uk>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 12:50 PM
Subject: [lojban] Questions? not hard..
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coi
=A0
1- how to derive plural from singular word by morphology in lojban? I know =
that optional but I want it.
=A0
2- what is the gloss word or the most common word=A0-but not synonyms- for =
each of
=A0
he:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 she:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 it:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0our:=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0up:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0 down:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 right -direction-:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 left=A0 -direction-:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=
=A0=A0 because:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 for:=A0=
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 be:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 has:=A0=A0=A0=20
=A0
if any another quistions occur at me I will ask, just will not occur about =
this type.
=A0
co'o
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oman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt;">Morphological plurals are NOT=
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You could make plural predicates (presumably pluralizing the first argument=
) by adding&nbsp; {zma, mau} maybe -- or the combinative form of some numer=
ical operator.&nbsp; But why, when syntactic plurals (when needed at all) a=
re so easy (any of them).&nbsp; The other list is too odd to comment on, ex=
cept to
 ask what would count as not synonyms if they are the common or gloss words=
.&nbsp; "he/she/it" are English specific, and "our" probably is too; "becau=
se/for/be/has" are some ambiguous/vague as to be useless as guides to what =
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t:bold;">To:</span></b> lojban@googlegroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font=
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<div id=3D"yiv971687786"><div>coi</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>1- how to derive plural from singular word by morphology in lojban? I =
know that optional but I want it.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>2- what is the gloss word or the most common word&nbsp;-but not synony=
ms- for each of</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>he:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; she:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; it:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;our:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;up:&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; down:=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; right -direction-:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; left&nbsp; -dire=
ction-:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; because:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for:&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; be:&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; has:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>if any another quistions occur at me I will ask, just will not occur a=
bout this type.</div>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
<div>co'o</div>


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