Received: from mail-oa0-f63.google.com ([209.85.219.63]:52306) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UUOnu-0008J4-H5 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:51 -0700 Received: by mail-oa0-f63.google.com with SMTP id i10sf740168oag.18 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ALfNjFRSrJjpOBDeS8ru7y2oP79gVaGE9yHgd68NqEM=; b=S72w8ElrU/hMGf/tpTxEc9ULq0MKMMr3ItYLvOz4psJWBGiFua6AL5EegMcUygogEP gc5C3XRhsQFnd8mXVcfaboEo1Al3vOxQfLLNXFYFU0O5AiAWKGXIMjlwLXQyEku2yLbB g/kr2pVNEufWpLVLOCvnffujbUZc2Bi8+CsJIi28JbqE16FYQ1tLbxk2J7HVqrSZQKFf 4c0SdAf1v7KiyPYfNHt+f6tF33Ry6iVb7jwklj1Qu+l7OU8eHAsrMkQX8fnIdGYNGov2 6taspsP3IBpi6UR/g3A4friaiBCumPGpDJ+TROz6oSm39U5ftICuZt+qSB3xSoXGEmBU Nghw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=ALfNjFRSrJjpOBDeS8ru7y2oP79gVaGE9yHgd68NqEM=; b=xjABtbgRAHH8ESV3D88yWiR6ZoaYPoI97y9pqHv+bkbKY8Vj1R1sNMi31X46jRHUk2 BbFhxj/9hA/mznXC8B9w5B7oIC/Duo9372zgnDP5tCuUj3O1ONNn7OZVlc54GbiPGDBx ROZlnNeGV8+4WwEEeg4QsdW9WDk/oxCxzugdRvoaJIHSv6gxZS5DMU2taa1++85CeQgw 90EUag3KqW2aV3ZVEYYJ0f8nllrlLD5HD0R+yFHwhoze9/1urXy14Fvdlap4wuU8E+WG j3+2momGL/L76hlPmmNgd2C7ncuobMGooBZ55XB6STvfcy0orTSlSNVRiKGOv12LXwU3 5qwg== X-Received: by 10.50.131.232 with SMTP id op8mr1996392igb.5.1366668095409; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:35 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.91.194 with SMTP id cg2ls87873igb.0.gmail; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.222.98 with SMTP id ql2mr4547241pbc.3.1366668094815; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-da0-x231.google.com (mail-da0-x231.google.com [2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gi6si3495394pbc.2.2013.04.22.15.01.34 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231; Received: by mail-da0-f49.google.com with SMTP id t11so3291578daj.8 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.246.9 with SMTP id xs9mr14359487pac.123.1366668094710; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.239.68 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:01:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <11888801.gh3HpLGhXu@caracal> References: <11888801.gh3HpLGhXu@caracal> Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:01:34 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Questions? not hard.. From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15fa0d4fa82904dafa3611 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b15fa0d4fa82904dafa3611 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > "be" is "du", but the English word has other uses. "for" needs context to > be > translated. I should've had this in my last message, sorry. I'd say in practice on the off chance that you actually need "be", {me} is probably better than {du}. Most usages of the verb "to be" (for example, "to be a dog") are separate verbs entirely in Lojban, however. mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7b15fa0d4fa82904dafa3611 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezit= opo.org> wrote:
"be" is "du", but the English word has other = uses. "for" needs context to be
translated.
I should've had this in my last mess= age, sorry. I'd say in practice on the off chance that you actually nee= d "be", {me} is probably better than {du}. Most usages of the ver= b "to be" (for example, "to be a dog") are separate ver= bs entirely in Lojban, however.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o=A0

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