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From: Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Should I quit learning Lojban?
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 13:10:13 -0400
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On Thursday, April 25, 2013 06:59:55 John E Clifford wrote:
> "SAE" is a term of art and refers to certain types of what we would now call
> deep structures; in particular, it is not an averaging of European
> languages in any sense.  Lojban "tenses" are those of logic, essentially
> Prior's, and it took me a number of pages to demonstrate that they were
> tenses at all as they are very different from those of natural languages
> (four points -- or one repeated four times -- and three arrows).  The Hopi
> failure to come up with Lojban (or, indeed, formal logic in its common
> form) has nothing to do with their lack of interest in the project (though
> I suppose they do lacks interest) but to the radically different nature of
> their language.  [I should note that, while I regularly express the
> orthodox view on these matters, I am not perfectly sure they are correct,
> cf. Christianity]

I know about SAE from Wikipedia 
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_Average_European) and from being at 
least a semi-native speaker of three SAE languages. What features of SAE 
languages are you talking about? What are the four points and three arrows? 
Are they like the four walls and three benches?

Pierre
-- 
I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales.

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