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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3090_14131917.1367049308196" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_3090_14131917.1367049308196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:06:27 AM UTC+4, xorxes wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM, la gleki > > wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, April 26, 2013 5:49:01 AM UTC+4, clifford wrote: >>> >>> No, the only elements of the second sort of languages are properties,= =20 >>> which overlap [the wrong word here, but I can't remember the right one]= or=20 >>> not in varying degrees (sorry, they changed the rules on relative claus= es=20 >>> on me between high school and now). So the classic Logic 1 sentence wo= uld=20 >>> be "Mortality humanity" with maybe some minor hook in there (but I don'= t=20 >>> know any such languages so don't quite know how it goes). =20 >>> >> >> >> Can you provide a link to any descriptions of such languages with=20 >> examples with glosses? Because the only example "Mortality humanity" mak= es=20 >> no sense. >> How are two words connected to each other? Like in tanru? Then it's just= =20 >> {submorsi subremna}. >> > =20 > There's one language I know of that fits that description: the language o= f=20 > the northern hemisphere of Tl=F6n. See=20 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C3%B6n,_Uqbar,_Orbis_Tertius or read the= =20 > full story here: http://art.yale.edu/file_columns/0000/0066/borges.pdf > Damn it. It has been in my bookmarks for years. Anyway "it mooned" is just= =20 {ca'o lunra} because obviously {lunra} is a verb. And I can't see much=20 difference from "it was the dog all o'er the road" from the Wave lessons. =20 > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_3090_14131917.1367049308196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:06:27 AM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:



On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 11:49 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:


On Friday, April 26, 2013 5:49:01 AM UTC+4, c= lifford wrote:
No, the only elements of the second sort of languages are prop= erties, which overlap [the wrong word here, but I can't remember the right = one] or not in varying degrees (sorry, they changed the rules on relative c= lauses on me between high school and now).  So the classic Logic 1 sen= tence would be "Mortality humanity" with maybe some minor hook in there (bu= t I don't know any such languages so don't quite know how it goes).  <= br>


Can you p= rovide a link to any descriptions of such languages with examples with glos= ses? Because the only example "Mortality humanity" makes no sense.
How are two words connected to each other? Like in tanru? Then it's ju= st {submorsi subremna}.
 
There's one= language I know of that fits that description: the language of the norther= n hemisphere of Tl=F6n. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C3%B6n,_Uqbar,_Orbis_Tertius or read the full stor= y here: http://art.yale.edu/file_columns/0000/0066/borge= s.pdf

Damn= it. It has been in my bookmarks for years. Anyway "it mooned" is just {ca'= o lunra} because obviously {lunra} is a verb. And I can't see much differen= ce from "it was the dog all o'er the road" from the Wave lessons.
 
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mu'o mi'e xorxes

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