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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1ed32b1d10d04db56bc26 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c1ed32b1d10d04db56bc26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:55 AM, la gleki wrote= : > > > On Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:06:27 AM UTC+4, xorxes wrote: > >> >> There's one language I know of that fits that description: the language >> of the northern hemisphere of Tl=F6n. See http://en.wikipedia.org/** >> wiki/Tl%C3%B6n,_Uqbar,_Orbis_**Tertius or >> read the full story here: http://art.yale.edu/** >> file_columns/0000/0066/borges.**pdf >> > > Damn it. It has been in my bookmarks for years. Anyway "it mooned" is jus= t > {ca'o lunra} because obviously {lunra} is a verb. And I can't see much > difference from "it was the dog all o'er the road" from the Wave lessons. > "It mooned" is from the languages of the southern hemisphere: "The preceding applies to the languages of the southern hemisphere. In those of the northern hemisphere (on whose Ursprache there is very little data in the Eleventh Volume) the prime unit is not the verb, but the monosyllabic adjective. The noun is formed by an accumulation of adjectives. They do not say "moon," but rather "round airy-light on dark" or "pale-orange-of-the-sky" or any other such combination. In the example selected the mass of adjectives refers to a real object, but this is purely fortuitous." mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c1ed32b1d10d04db56bc26 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 4:55 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.na= me@gmail.com> wrote:


On Saturday, April 27, 2013 2:06:27 AM UTC+4, xorx= es wrote:
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There's one language I know of that fits that description: the lan= guage of the northern hemisphere of Tl=F6n. See=A0http://en= .wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C3%B6n,_Uqbar,_Orbis_Tertius=A0or = read the full story here:=A0http://art.yale.edu/file_column= s/0000/0066/borges.pdf

Damn it. It = has been in my bookmarks for years. Anyway "it mooned" is just {c= a'o lunra} because obviously {lunra} is a verb. And I can't see muc= h difference from "it was the dog all o'er the road" from the= Wave lessons.

"It mooned" is from the la= nguages of the southern hemisphere:

"The= preceding applies to the languages of the southern hemisphere. In=A0
those of the northern hemisphere (on whose Ursprache there is very=A0<= /div>
little data in the Eleventh Volume) the prime unit is not the ver= b, but the=A0
monosyllabic adjective. The noun is formed by an ac= cumulation of=A0
adjectives. They do not say "moon," but rather "round a= iry-light on dark"=A0
or "pale-orange-of-the-sky" = or any other such combination. In the=A0
example selected the mas= s of adjectives refers to a real object, but this is=A0
purely fortuitous."

mu'o= mi'e xorxes



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