Received: from mail-gg0-f187.google.com ([209.85.161.187]:33177) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UWV7i-0000vO-Il for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:10:54 -0700 Received: by mail-gg0-f187.google.com with SMTP id b1sf1952225ggm.24 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-authenticated :x-provags-id:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:references:in-reply-to:x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender :list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=VVYyN8q9htthmxHJlIRThvQCTY+euLv/JPuqwrZxcDM=; b=bzMW+zHiekR7rBZAhkh/dRzWayogXKTT6xbkUgb7f697KtmZNzYSvSR5cbhhefn+ZZ AMz3V4H9bUNU/ryBcHQNoYQc1PZu2h3/Ore+zRREK8j46oi/Bap62ly/5xRJTyBDMEo/ AgyQNdie3zsR8pJj+WxHq0kqRyh9TEXOKMAYebrb5ZkwuLc28hzRl1VqCOL77bDw6dJB zMd5HppvhIgrQKxXnA+vCpa3Vx1BMMiK8GF+Sb++L9YJjwpfeX5uKUICyw5T1t0GvYE1 8Zg4eQXivuQ/lwA2Hi6FOToZxcf4dcRWHBZgKQ91/hY6x3McIzQ+TLokvp9d6HhS1DIu ztHw== X-Received: by 10.50.39.102 with SMTP id o6mr1050671igk.7.1367169044226; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:10:44 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.134.196 with SMTP id pm4ls1420818igb.22.canary; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.68.197.196 with SMTP id iw4mr9186574pbc.7.1367169043656; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.15.18]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id xq5si873307pac.2.2013.04.28.10.10.43 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:10:43 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.15.18; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.12]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx002) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MQsi0-1U3JhU2QXO-00UN1S for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:10:42 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 28 Apr 2013 17:10:42 -0000 Received: from p5DDC5EB0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [93.220.94.176] by mail.gmx.net (mp012) with SMTP; 28 Apr 2013 19:10:42 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18akgoymaQaUvrzGhuijmHVmjdkB+AgvNYxMIswOu 8UPTToK7ghagve Message-ID: <517D5810.6030003@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 19:10:40 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130328 Thunderbird/17.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: The Mad Proposals References: In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.15.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la .stivos. cu cusku di'e > I whole-heartedly support this change. I'm not a regular user of Lojban, > though. May I ask what motivated you to say that just then? Did you just randomly run into this proposal now or does this have to do with the recent thread about TAG connectives? I'm just wondering if this is coincidence. :) Lately, there has been more and more talk of GIJA (which it's usually referred to by some, rather than "Mad Proposal", since, of course, its proponents don't find it at all mad!). xorxes' "speak up now!" call might finally be answered, albeit belatedly (20 years!). I wonder how many more people are silently in favor of GIJA. My estimate right now is that there are (at least) 7 people in favor, almost all of which use Lojban regularly. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.