Received: from mail-ee0-f57.google.com ([74.125.83.57]:43407) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UWVh6-000192-NC for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:39 -0700 Received: by mail-ee0-f57.google.com with SMTP id t10sf1159902eei.12 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=QzBWnPrY/ef8tVcsnEkiZtELq8d6+22szucprAso+VM=; b=kg24OaCS6lKJBXk1yU8ZLmERrCRcVB4tn/CTeZ7gTzctWcpuke0+hsYno6OpVgWFDi yE0W2MPoRBx+bS3rokWTx0BAgRcnTH9ZWOQPajWXWnfdCDGgvWXJdE61HY4xT6VdQz1z J0xzQkvw+LguPlRNIlZpSbMjTAR+ruh85KzkON9L2f7C7q5MzFOZICpzlwf6RC2wLzFc cKqgON/wOsmYji38TlkMM2PfCP9mRt9WIkwynL+WgpDbVg6pnkU5y88lARjSh8FKurSI uKUXLyzk6y6/9eXU+rzjvEWStmiFuBnXmqS7bbHlW2wVS7Hxbf9waieHCLHXhCPP/e5n 5U6Q== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=QzBWnPrY/ef8tVcsnEkiZtELq8d6+22szucprAso+VM=; b=mXjVTfrcBuCR9Geeppt8dGd2skdYjc07MAY5ElnfcRn8WHhq5Ch/k4UUl7NCxqoYml l6hMBUnjD2Hegr0o29FoV0cE+V188YjRLBJPI8v/ZUWqOBpI6Gq7qLtJYSQzJliNNds4 FiwBEJDNWBeaRsmZgH9UwGhvfF1bdEZtp4bt3ZtQ89FOFts/j6m9sowq8LS6WJY3JPee LdT3XSsRCN5AlwRE2T9h6Djtv0EKy49+gY1rvO6Ju2+AIR81o0zba1c5/fh6M43997X5 8Hkn8qtZ9gQz5e1cXRmFvdxrdAz4K/ZOiQ75WTjjCV0t2eI8OV3mw6Bjdr47eDuWmUDe 9fBQ== X-Received: by 10.180.90.134 with SMTP id bw6mr669898wib.8.1367171237297; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:17 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.39.172 with SMTP id q12ls532691wik.50.canary; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.228.132 with SMTP id je4mr4644433bkb.6.1367171236553; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x230.google.com (mail-la0-x230.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::230]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id r6si1723334bkz.0.2013.04.28.10.47.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::230 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::230; Received: by mail-la0-x230.google.com with SMTP id eo20so4842628lab.35 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.115.173 with SMTP id jp13mr19284283lab.49.1367171236304; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.97.132 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <517D5810.6030003@gmx.de> References: <517D5810.6030003@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 11:47:16 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: The Mad Proposals From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::230 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c235dce31f1604db6f5b45 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c235dce31f1604db6f5b45 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, selpa'i wrote: > la .stivos. cu cusku di'e > > I whole-heartedly support this change. I'm not a regular user of Lojban, >> though. >> > > May I ask what motivated you to say that just then? Did you just randomly > run into this proposal now or does this have to do with the recent thread > about TAG connectives? I'm just wondering if this is coincidence. :) > > Lately, there has been more and more talk of GIJA (which it's usually > referred to by some, rather than "Mad Proposal", since, of course, its > proponents don't find it at all mad!). xorxes' "speak up now!" call might > finally be answered, albeit belatedly (20 years!). > Well, it's only been two years since I found the original proposal and tried to revive the discussion myself, so at least progress is being made. zo'o > I wonder how many more people are silently in favor of GIJA. My estimate > right now is that there are (at least) 7 people in favor, almost all of > which use Lojban regularly. > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/lojban?hl=en > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out > . > > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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On S= un, Apr 28, 2013 at 11:10 AM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrot= e:
la .stivos. cu cusku di'e

I whole-heartedly support this change. I'm not a regular user of Lojban= ,
though.

May I ask what motivated you to say that just then? Did you just randomly r= un into this proposal now or does this have to do with the recent thread ab= out TAG connectives? I'm just wondering if this is coincidence. :)

Lately, there has been more and more talk of GIJA (which it's usually r= eferred to by some, rather than "Mad Proposal", since, of course,= its proponents don't find it at all mad!). xorxes' "speak up = now!" call might finally be answered, albeit belatedly (20 years!).

Well, it's only been two years since I= found the original proposal and tried to revive the discussion myself, so = at least progress is being made. zo'o
=A0
I wonder how many more people are silently in favor of GIJA. My estimate ri= ght now is that there are (at least) 7 people in favor, almost all of which= use Lojban regularly.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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