Received: from mail-vb0-f56.google.com ([209.85.212.56]:63216) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UWgCv-00049Z-15 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:01:09 -0700 Received: by mail-vb0-f56.google.com with SMTP id e13sf793847vbg.21 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:00:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=K42CenHr2Akni8UXWGHIwdJQmsoSHXES8jL7pE+PzGI=; b=vDPe6YApeLbNvDFG2tpgzOX6A1Sniy7HyKc8dSNkhauyr1aKgqpwiXMc82Xv8CtuQJ cxf1OnWXiqqANrVEbBSmbrVrebNL52kGe2ACdXu6B4F2oT/XtN9LsCu9dzJeLFeLP0uR 2BXL+JtNyoFRuOdW+0oQUUB2GN5+SC5+pA2FQPQL7FXDMr2eii4dNfcVOvsU9p7upbM8 LxEwYptL9MNH3GOVVtdUeoLa5qTfGned77/k+Qyb9bcsfEmmu0T9Ea8JE/62KpcIRz06 80DTpvXScgGDjNyXy8DwB1uG6OibXIST/dydqOWtzu8fevCce88llSKMN4CJD7709Mk/ bH4A== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=K42CenHr2Akni8UXWGHIwdJQmsoSHXES8jL7pE+PzGI=; b=DYwjiHzGRboYnSRc2gUjp240k1XwiUNuLz4QdTE3ec15GpvyHd6IaAxZAx27QxdqR4 2Lnb4SgKrK0ivP05as0RYuGKyENzKr2ONQ9Mq076PSDN6OtvqakgP/eTRyF8O0cgFlMi wQ6mus+emzwDcif0G6z1uJnH+Y/Yk2Eg6CmHiDlaTtoziLdum2nbcMkJbVK9gS8r+U8u XdwJUHaqxzh2PUQAWI2+Nh/BO6M8ceZp2MQGIqQcJPCm83uGJny48SGEkPJtFKRbDsd/ hESBLLu9dThA2IhszsL1aLuweF1iLRoUWEJStlTPCocp8efuWU7pCXnpl9cYIOSb3POR mlVg== X-Received: by 10.49.61.234 with SMTP id t10mr4313183qer.16.1367211650299; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:00:50 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.14.103 with SMTP id o7ls1159278qec.9.gmail; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:00:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.72.225 with SMTP id g1mr4356972qev.36.1367211649042; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:00:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 22:00:48 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: John E Clifford Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <5d22d3a4-46ca-4f77-bff4-5aa52f193e13@googlegroups.com> <1367077174.81679.YahooMailNeo@web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <64004f6e-1230-4ea5-9e50-d47c4f125465@googlegroups.com> <2522542.hS9FGoL6dn@caracal> <1367185250.6160.YahooMailNeo@web184401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [lojban] Should I quit learning Lojban? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3006_6540113.1367211648590" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_3006_6540113.1367211648590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, April 29, 2013 8:24:24 AM UTC+4, shanoxilt wrote: > > > > On Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:40:50 PM UTC-4, clifford wrote: >> >> This is all getting very confusing to me; I either don't get the point of >> various comments or I don't see the relevance of them to what I think is >> the topic at hand (which long ago ceased to be about learning Lojban -- we >> ought to change the title). >> > This is part of the reason why I am so ambivalent about continuing to > learn Lojban. Fundamental concepts in and about this language are still > undecided. These issues should have been solved years ago. :\ > shanoxilt, this is not the discussionabout Lojban. This is the discussion about other languages that are incompatible with Lojban or Indo-European languages. There are no problems in using Lojban. We are just trying to find some exotic examples of expressing human thought. All basic fundamental concepts in Lojban are transparent. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_3006_6540113.1367211648590 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Monday, April 29, 2013 8:24:24 AM UTC+4, shanoxilt wrote:

On Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:4= 0:50 PM UTC-4, clifford wrote:
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This is all getting very co= nfusing to me; I either don't get the point of various comments or I don't = see the relevance of them to what I think is the topic at hand (which long = ago ceased to be about learning Lojban -- we ought to change the title).&nb= sp;
This is part of the reason wh= y I am so ambivalent about continuing to learn Lojban. Fundamental concepts= in and about this language are still undecided. These issues should have b= een solved years ago. :\


shanoxilt, this is not the discussionabout Lojban. This is the discussio= n about other languages that are incompatible with Lojban or Indo-European = languages. 
There are no problems in using Lojban. We are ju= st trying to find some exotic examples of expressing human thought.
All basic fundamental concepts in Lojban are transparent.
=
 

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