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 Content preview:  As noted earlier, we should have changed the label on this
    thread a while back. Lojban is not a puzzle; the question whether to call
    it SAE is 1) irrelevant to its use and understanding. And2) depends upon
   definitions of SAE. Don't worry about it unless you like philosophical ( I.e.,
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As noted earlier, we should have changed the label on this thread a while b=
ack.  Lojban is not a puzzle; the question whether to call it SAE is 1) irr=
elevant to its use and understanding. And2) depends upon definitions of SAE=
.  Don't worry about it unless you like philosophical ( I.e., verbal and po=
intless) disputes.

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On Apr 29, 2013, at 0:00, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Monday, April 29, 2013 8:24:24 AM UTC+4, shanoxilt wrote:
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> On Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:40:50 PM UTC-4, clifford wrote:
> This is all getting very confusing to me; I either don't get the point of=
 various comments or I don't see the relevance of them to what I think is t=
he topic at hand (which long ago ceased to be about learning Lojban -- we o=
ught to change the title).=20
> This is part of the reason why I am so ambivalent about continuing to lea=
rn Lojban. Fundamental concepts in and about this language are still undeci=
ded. These issues should have been solved years ago. :\
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> shanoxilt, this is not the discussionabout Lojban. This is the discussion=
 about other languages that are incompatible with Lojban or Indo-European l=
anguages.=20
> There are no problems in using Lojban. We are just trying to find some ex=
otic examples of expressing human thought.
> All basic fundamental concepts in Lojban are transparent.
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>As noted earlier, we shou=
ld have changed the label on this thread a while back. &nbsp;Lojban is not =
a puzzle; the question whether to call it SAE is 1) irrelevant to its use a=
nd understanding. And2) depends upon definitions of SAE. &nbsp;Don't worry =
about it unless you like philosophical ( I.e., verbal and pointless) disput=
es.<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Apr 29, 2013, at 0:00, la gle=
ki &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com">gleki.is.my.name@gmail=
.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>=
<br><br>On Monday, April 29, 2013 8:24:24 AM UTC+4, shanoxilt wrote:<blockq=
uote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-lef=
t: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><br><br>On Sunday, April 28, 2013 5:4=
0:50 PM UTC-4, clifford wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>=
<div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:times new roman,=
new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>This is all getting very co=
nfusing to me; I either don't get the point of various comments or I don't =
see the relevance of them to what I think is the topic at hand (which long =
ago ceased to be about learning Lojban -- we ought to change the title).&nb=
sp;</span></div></div></div></blockquote><div>This is part of the reason wh=
y I am so ambivalent about continuing to learn Lojban. Fundamental concepts=
 in and about this language are still undecided. These issues should have b=
een solved years ago. :\</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><d=
iv>shanoxilt, this is not the discussionabout Lojban. This is the discussio=
n about other languages that are incompatible with Lojban or Indo-European =
languages.&nbsp;</div><div>There are no problems in using Lojban. We are ju=
st trying to find some exotic examples of expressing human thought.<br></di=
v><div>All basic fundamental concepts in Lojban are transparent.</div><div>=
<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left:=
 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div>&nbsp;</div></b=
lockquote>

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