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Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:33:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: The Mad Proposals
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The more interesting question about {.ai} et al is their function?=A0 Are t=
hey, as some maintain, actually=A0 speech act indicators ore are they somet=
hing else -- and, if so, what?


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 From: la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:11 AM
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On Monday, April 29, 2013 5:21:03 PM UTC+4, remod wrote:
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 8:01 AM, la gleki <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Although one is always free to add http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/gije =
and it's friends to jbovlaste.
>>
>=A0In this case it would be different as they would probably interfere wit=
h the formal grammar. The language must remain unambigously parseable=A0 or=
 every will be lost!
>
>
>The best would be if the changes would be compatible so that whatever was =
grammatically correct before introducing GIJA will stay correct.
>

if GIhA is retained for backward compatibility then nothing previously writ=
ten is broken. But only for GIJA/GIhA. Other proposals break some things.

btw, cmavo definitions have been initially broken in jbovlaste. A complaint=
 that i got just today is that

{.ai} means "intent" but defined in jvs as the full scale "attitudinal: int=
ent - indecision - rejection/refusal." which has to be in comments, not in =
the definition.


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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>The more i=
nteresting question about {.ai} et al is their function?&nbsp; Are they, as=
 some maintain, actually&nbsp; speech act indicators ore are they something=
 else -- and, if so, what?<br></span></div><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"f=
ont-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <di=
v style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size:=
 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"=
> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> la gleki &lt;gleki.=
is.my.name@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</spa=
n></b> lojban@googlegroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">S=
ent:</span></b> Monday, April 29, 2013 10:11 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-=
weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [lojban] Re: The Mad Proposals<br> <=
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 <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><br>
<div id=3D"yiv1436903498"><br><br>On Monday, April 29, 2013 5:21:03 PM UTC+=
4, remod wrote:<blockquote class=3D"yiv1436903498gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"yiv1436903498gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 29, 201=
3 at 8:01 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"" rel=3D"nofollow">=
gleki.is...@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"yiv1436903498gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><br></div><div>Although o=
ne is always free to add http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/gije and it's fri=
ends to jbovlaste.</div>

<div></div><br></blockquote><div>&nbsp;</div></div>In this case it would be=
 different as they would probably interfere with the formal grammar. The la=
nguage must remain unambigously parseable&nbsp; or every will be lost!<br><=
br></div>
<div>The best would be if the changes would be compatible so that whatever =
was grammatically correct before introducing GIJA will stay correct.<br></d=
iv></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>if GIhA is retained for backward =
compatibility then nothing previously written is broken. But only for GIJA/=
GIhA. Other proposals break some things.</div><div><br></div><div>btw, cmav=
o definitions have been initially broken in jbovlaste. A complaint that i g=
ot just today is that</div><div><br></div><div>{.ai} means "intent" but def=
ined in jvs as the full scale "attitudinal: intent - indecision - rejection=
/refusal." which has to be in comments, not in the definition.</div><div><b=
r></div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv1436903498gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;=
"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div></div><div><br></div><div>
remod<br></div></div>
</blockquote>


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