Received: from mail-wg0-f63.google.com ([74.125.82.63]:59148) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UWrHC-0001eG-Jt for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:50:21 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f63.google.com with SMTP id z11sf795590wgg.8 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:49:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7wr0BOe02CHaskWDEUWfcyc5YbSCWigvWx18MwvvB7w=; b=iU0p4/m/tItMg28UYVXrLG9nTkK6Nva2I+R8RYhjxsyRdkiNFUN+tm9i6EZIvXMD7l 1DtuEFhNdIITFAWlUYybOIQAvhd55dhj+pVXSKFJFXLROHq1hh4Hvh5cSXWs3B67I3qR uGjrz6OWTHHgR4yzLNNS+LwyQSeQJj+VNRD3T7Yg/MC13qH4uklu1xShH/dRc+qJJAz4 wHb8JsQLRBqbSS8+SzBi5kgUsRI7oQ+5zNe89LHGSnJXOsW4jWOIE8imza8V6GNnsJ6a 4/8t+QhqF6DpmcxKdCPa8EZgGroTYONrNY0UwBfWDO8K58WEVt6XHepZr0pj+u/uvf2D +ljw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:cc:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=7wr0BOe02CHaskWDEUWfcyc5YbSCWigvWx18MwvvB7w=; b=NZzPZ04fFmY5S/eQfXWNgOV92dTUy1eILx7mVv69t3MxCW1OGxRkjeaaPYBZnvLJQq 4lRecVqTVuCZJXcfYPq3qMP71HKbzO1dtv6Js42ystRFFJ6ndLnikjAnEq1wXbhqbE2X I7SgEXHc366umGVN07EZ+n1tQQdRoIUjKrWr8jOdegNXa358pGCxxbzvB4OrVeZj3oIn R8Sj09yVHHXZ0YColV1wtSD/oFO0/H+hqwr+Ib7Kto0zce/2rNGgLFz7he1pcAjJ1voo kQtgK0pEwBovdUg3XWJQao0XretJEZS3Ju2dHfVErCBvYicrH9OvOSEriuDWqTjk0IRy yyxg== X-Received: by 10.180.38.77 with SMTP id e13mr326169wik.13.1367254199450; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:49:59 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.58.5 with SMTP id m5ls2828262qeq.40.gmail; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:49:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.53.6 with SMTP id x6mr2256113qeo.11.1367254198736; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:49:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 09:49:58 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Cc: lojban-list@lojban.org Message-Id: <71a0be7f-85af-4b53-8212-8e2de124cf9c@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <20130429163424.GP10220@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> References: <20130429163424.GP10220@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Subject: [lojban] Re: Baby Words: "you're right" and orders. MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_185_10523881.1367254198291" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_185_10523881.1367254198291 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Monday, April 29, 2013 8:34:24 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote: > > > 1. How would you mark a {ko} that's an order? I use {e'o} for > requests. For "You must do this!" I've been using {ga'i}, but it's > a tad unsatisfying. > Now I wonder how to say "You have to do this" if {e'i} is taken. It's time to update jbovlaste definitions because they are being translated to other languages and these wrong definitions are being multiplied. > 2. How would you say "that's right!" or "you're right!", i.e. when > the kid brings me the object I've asked for? I use {i'e} for lots > of situations like that, but that doesn't convey correctness > particularily. Is {drani} OK here? I'm not clear on what can do in > the x1. > > -Robin > > -- > http://intelligence.org/ : Our last, best hope for a fantastic future. > .i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e > lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e > lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakni > li'u > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_185_10523881.1367254198291 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Monday, April 29, 2013 8:34:24 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote:
1.  How would you mark a {ko} that's an order?  I use {e'o} f= or
requests.  For "You must do this!" I've been using {ga'i}, but it'= s
a tad unsatisfying.

Now I wonder how to say "You have to d= o this" if {e'i} is taken.
It's time to update jbovlaste definiti= ons because they are being translated to other languages and these wrong de= finitions are being multiplied.


2.  How would you say "that's right!" or "you're right!", i.e. whe= n
the kid brings me the object I've asked for?  I use {i'e} for lots
of situations like that, but that doesn't convey correctness
particularily.  Is {drani} OK here?  I'm not clear on what ca= n do in
the x1.

-Robin

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http://intellige= nce.org/ :  Our last, best hope for a fantastic future.
.i ko na cpedu lo nu stidi vau loi jbopre .i danfu lu na go'i li'u .e
lu go'i li'u .i ji'a go'i lu na'e go'i li'u .e lu go'i na'i li'u .e
lu no'e go'i li'u .e lu to'e go'i li'u .e lu lo mamta be do cu sofybakn= i li'u

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