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To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.178 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2b108f229a904db8499a3 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c2b108f229a904db8499a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You're using imperative and command as if they were different, but to me they are synonyms. What does each mean to you? mu'o mi'e stevon On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, selpa'i wrote: > la .stevon. cu cusku di'e > > What's the difference between using {e'i} and using {ko}? When would you >> use {e'i} without {ko}, and vice versa? >> > > {ko} is a vague imperative, it can be used for requests and commands > alike, it can be polite or not. > > {.e'i} (under the proposed definition) is explicitly a command, much like > {.e'o} is explicitly a request. > > > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com > . > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/lojban?hl=en > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**groups/opt_out > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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You're using imperative and command as if they were di= fferent, but to me they are synonyms. What does each mean to you?=A0
mu'o mi'e stevon


On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, selpa&#= 39;i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
la .stevon. cu cusku di'e

What's the difference between using {e'i} and using {ko}? When woul= d you
use {e'i} without {ko}, and vice versa?

{ko} is a vague imperative, it can be used for requests and commands alike,= it can be polite or not.

{.e'i} (under the proposed definition) is explicitly a command, much li= ke {.e'o} is explicitly a request.


mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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