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That's because in English, all non-request imperatives are commands;
if you drop the "please" in "please go", it's a (rather rude)
command.

{ko klama} is ambiguous between "Please go" and "Go!" (and "I would
really appreciate it if you would go" and "Go! (points gun at head)"
and "FUCKING GO ASSHOLE!" and so on), and selpa'i is using
"imperative" to describe what {ko klama} is; no idea if other people
use that term for that.

-Robin

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 03:07:20PM -0400, MorphemeAddict wrote:
> You're using imperative and command as if they were different, but to me
> they are synonyms. What does each mean to you?
> 
> mu'o mi'e stevon
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 1:53 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
> 
> > la .stevon. cu cusku di'e
> >
> >  What's the difference between using {e'i} and using {ko}? When would you
> >> use {e'i} without {ko}, and vice versa?
> >>
> >
> > {ko} is a vague imperative, it can be used for requests and commands
> > alike, it can be polite or not.
> >
> > {.e'i} (under the proposed definition) is explicitly a command, much like
> > {.e'o} is explicitly a request.
> >
> >
> > mu'o mi'e la selpa'i
> >
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