Received: from mail-gg0-f186.google.com ([209.85.161.186]:51189) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UXBLK-0004yh-QQ for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:15:54 -0700 Received: by mail-gg0-f186.google.com with SMTP id v2sf208315ggc.23 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:15:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ID5aLctKMhp7TR8lcNeRRXfW/W4cp7R4WrFp66sGMN0=; b=W69LIrFBJQ3pfj8U5kzTDYgCSahJUDG6rUiJrvlnAUZvInAVnpcEKBbKPjlOLfgmok OE+PjjgmmB/4rvYPxn0gefJTy7h7Zdtw628BusgSH3MkIY0r5xf4mFb5nsCjBx6go2ez D5lGYVVrkRu9JgyP9BwUSDuF2wAA+GeJ8921o7tchklJnI0ZKpAp7zxFwnEAA7WyIVx6 XIpKZIIqmZl3KCk7pFb3ECw/SzslkJxYUhHKjN9SFPtqneE7kKwqiIKXgmu/Yo0WS4hk K+D+yozLVCuvnSYw7mKnYUNKUxEWjKp//tbh9sBRZ60x86Y8GvrYQE82d9A+7KP1vcK5 EgNw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:date:from:to:message-id :in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version:x-original-sender :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=ID5aLctKMhp7TR8lcNeRRXfW/W4cp7R4WrFp66sGMN0=; b=JXGCb1oM9cQ/2WpczGgrEQLTO7tcxi6RWTpusVlv3H7RGVp2xKoD0oBEpiZunurljB vBpV+uC5/iD89IAEDuF3aAVuZzXCj/YS6L4FxG8LThOoze1I0H2FOr/XKMRjf1O6oRIC aeV8Pb4P9MqckV+yRWE1XMICMH+WL2Kz5fheIQyi0qW3gO7aosTEXCdrZSTQkDZuQRwX sG7xeI2e6RUQqcGGuZNj5SHcARtxUXXDPYuV43McGoNgEOAcSEiQNQ+xxal41mYNKG5m 9ASS8JhYHf3LtqjT3gz+m0R3piJ0oO2114FToo4jSw+ogf+ufw1qtuNuhxHgcr2nLbF7 tULg== X-Received: by 10.49.4.169 with SMTP id l9mr3299425qel.29.1367331336410; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:15:36 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.121.37 with SMTP id lh5ls219951qeb.66.gmail; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:15:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.49.40.168 with SMTP id y8mr967133qek.9.1367331333439; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 07:15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: la gleki To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: <923b5277-b2be-44ad-a446-02ef6655a1d9@googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5179678E.30007@gmx.de> Subject: Re: [lojban] A use for {me SUMTI mei} MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_946_18591579.1367331333020" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_946_18591579.1367331333020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:33:36 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote: > > {me SUMTI mei} is awesome and it seems like we can nicely gloss it as "x1 > is an amount (on an unspecified scale) represented by SUMTI. IMO, however, > the x2 should simply be the type of stuff being quantified. This makes it > hold more consistently with the BPFK definition of numeric mei. Indeed, > rather than numerically quantifying some x2s, which is what the numeric > version does, we can vaguely quantify by comparison with another object. > > e.g. {.i mi pinxe lo me lo xance mei be lo djacu} {.i mi citka lo me lo > palte mei be lo cakla} > looks like Lojban finally got noun quantifiers (tanru were too vague). > > .i mi'e la tsani mu'o > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_946_18591579.1367331333020 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 5:33:36 PM UTC+4, tsani wrote:
{me SUMTI mei} is = awesome and it seems like we can nicely gloss it as "x1 is an amount (on an= unspecified scale) represented by SUMTI. IMO, however, the x2 should simpl= y be the type of stuff being quantified. This makes it hold more consistent= ly with the BPFK definition of numeric mei. Indeed, rather than numerically= quantifying some x2s, which is what the numeric version does, we can vague= ly quantify by comparison with another object.

e.g. {.i mi pinxe lo me lo xance mei be lo djacu} {.i m= i citka lo me lo palte mei be lo cakla}

looks like Lojban finally got noun quantifiers (tanru were too vag= ue).
 

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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