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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: The Mad Proposals
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On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Betsemes <betsemes@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM, selpa'i <seladwa@gmx.de> wrote:
> > I wonder how many more people are silently in favor of GIJA. My estimate
> > right now is that there are (at least) 7 people in favor, almost all of
> > which use Lojban regularly.
>
> There are things in Lojban that are too complicated or unreasonably
> restrictive that're screaming for a change. If my vote has any
> validity, I vote to favor this change. But Lojban has been ruled by a
> dictator who opposes any kind of change, so I strongly doubt that
> anything will change.
>

Robin is for quite a lot of changes. What is keeping changes from happening
is not the BDFL, but the baseline. For I don't know how many years Lojban
has been frozen until such time as the baseline is completed. /NO/ changes
are allowed until that point, and this rule predates Robin's taking over as
President aka BDFL.

If you want official changes to be able to be made to Lojban, i.e. get shit
fixed, then you should help finish the job that needs done first:
www.lojban.org/tiki/*BPFK*+*Community*+Work


> mu'o mi'e betsemes
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
ue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Betsemes <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:betsemes@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">betsemes@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> =
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Sun,=
 Apr 28, 2013 at 1:10 PM, selpa&#39;i &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:seladwa@gmx.de"=
>seladwa@gmx.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br>

&gt; I wonder how many more people are silently in favor of GIJA. My estima=
te<br>
&gt; right now is that there are (at least) 7 people in favor, almost all o=
f<br>
&gt; which use Lojban regularly.<br>
<br>
</div>There are things in Lojban that are too complicated or unreasonably<b=
r>
restrictive that&#39;re screaming for a change. If my vote has any<br>
validity, I vote to favor this change. But Lojban has been ruled by a<br>
dictator who opposes any kind of change, so I strongly doubt that<br>
anything will change.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Robin is for quit=
e a lot of changes. What is keeping changes from happening is not the BDFL,=
 but the baseline. For I don&#39;t know how many years Lojban has been froz=
en until such time as the baseline is completed. /NO/ changes are allowed u=
ntil that point, and this rule predates Robin&#39;s taking over as Presiden=
t aka BDFL.<br>
<br></div><div>If you want official changes to be able to be made to Lojban=
, i.e. get shit fixed, then you should help finish the job that needs done =
first: <cite><a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/">www.lojban.org/tiki/</=
a><b>BPFK</b>+<b>Community</b>+Work</cite></div>
<div>=A0</div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">

mu&#39;o mi&#39;e betsemes<br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi=
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