Received: from mail-lb0-f184.google.com ([209.85.217.184]:49076) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UXEeB-0006YK-Ok for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:28 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f184.google.com with SMTP id r10sf218677lbi.21 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=4U0MErdq2PDgsSRZlODnBkIgUanl2Uaj79N6x5MQGZ0=; b=w2FNM9ASGFSTjBfAB9Gei4b7n4/8HH7OId+2V7hML2U1AnEtyDU0v3myRLN4RQ6rvk MA6OxBzd2GzuMTzF4skV0779ZXU93qhSghdqcj54NmvlgVcgW05aawLEOMA6rqWEJXx/ aYllDZZbAaYSp2xp5p/sSi+AzdNbAWD1J83TEjvfNunbiaxlzTV2+H4JPmDl4PqiWF7s Caonv2i/+tiFWWR21cf0LMoNISYA1C59lmwTNnXXgprfT5WOEjhk343RiaQdnC26NQCb 4VZ/ozVJ8xTBMd5AAEC3NWrHT+R5xc0XwOZzfY3ZFbmNmeCYGTlVl4BD8DWKrWUl5cBP OVpA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=4U0MErdq2PDgsSRZlODnBkIgUanl2Uaj79N6x5MQGZ0=; b=VIhGdR7PEEZ1iwduZZuEaXznuXRI0MsBdzkLMCvkQ1n0sdQF5DQxEwZq1cMok23gYQ zXQROVMjoXVrFLA8y2lgva2Y3F68lL7XFtLW9QMWBzBTQS7qemLQzyv/gOKbkfuNKNkk ujfbnCa+6g0mEh/dG0Caw41yO3CLxBnn6FtB8uqyC+URcAz+wVsCQyO/fu4qfvElHlkI 6m8qe1053D2y+JOtKgHLJyPiB7e6qGqHZFXHmOR1KOQCSM8bYE+A0DUVHQv6i8SKHwic rR8EqGhyPbKd/MJ6LUQ6eMM0Q1L2q85SfKeL85O4g61SJ0jij1b5/92LuXVFubrLwpw2 jWrw== X-Received: by 10.180.189.72 with SMTP id gg8mr1389890wic.1.1367344036222; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:16 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.84.164 with SMTP id a4ls1151534wiz.13.canary; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.175.2 with SMTP id v2mr2486345bkz.7.1367344035915; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22e.google.com (mail-la0-x22e.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9si2408524bki.2.2013.04.30.10.47.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e; Received: by mail-la0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id fs13so668225lab.5 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.144.36 with SMTP id sj4mr29964lbb.1.1367344035745; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.97.132 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 10:47:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <517FF873.9080706@gmx.de> <20130430173751.GA10220@stodi.digitalkingdom.org> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 11:47:15 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Why is there no noodle gismu? From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34343e89570304db979701 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b34343e89570304db979701 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Craig Daniel wrote: > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 01:32:44PM -0400, Craig Daniel wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jonathan Jones > wrote: > >> > > >> > I'd say the shape of Fettuccine stills qualifies as skori even though > they > >> > aren't cylindrical. Are there any noodles that aren't pasta? > >> > > >> > Because if not, I'd suggest using pasta as a gismu (because we don't > have a > >> > gismu for pasta either, and the gismu {pasta} is available), meaning > what > >> > anyone would guess it did, and then noodles could be line-pasta. > (skopasta). > >> > >> I'd be inclined to try a succinct type-IV fu'ivla, but yeah, I think > >> "pasta" should be the main gloss we're going for. Alternatively, > >> jbovlaste lists "pexfebdja." > > > > That's mine. It sucks. > > It does. It's better than nothing, but I think there must be a way to do > better. > I'm still behind {pasta}. I'd be hard pressed to find a better word than that. I'm not sure if you're aware of my hatred of fu'ivla in general? -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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On T= ue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Craig Daniel <craigbdaniel@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:= 37 PM, Robin Lee Powell
<
rlpowell@digitalkingdom.= org> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 01:32:44PM -0400, Craig Daniel wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'd say the shape of Fettuccine stills qualifies as skori= even though they
>> > aren't cylindrical. Are there any noodles that aren't= pasta?
>> >
>> > Because if not, I'd suggest using pasta as a gismu (becau= se we don't have a
>> > gismu for pasta either, and the gismu {pasta} is available), = meaning what
>> > anyone would guess it did, and then noodles could be line-pas= ta. (skopasta).
>>
>> I'd be inclined to try a succinct type-IV fu'ivla, but yea= h, I think
>> "pasta" should be the main gloss we're going for. Al= ternatively,
>> jbovlaste lists "pexfebdja."
>
> That's mine. =A0It sucks.

It does. It's better than nothing, but I think there must be a wa= y to do better.

I'm still behind {pasta}. I'd be = hard pressed to find a better word than that.

I'm not sure if you're aware of my hatred of fu'ivla= in general?

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<= br>.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#= 39;o
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