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John E Clifford wrote:
> Well, the "standard semantics" of Lojban makes the referents of all 'lo
> broda' expressions things in the operant sense,  "the salient node in
> the upward semilattice on the extension of {broda} under jest )
> (part-whole)", so anything between all the brodas and a microscopic
> speck of broda goo, as the case requires.

Since when does Lojban have a standard semantics?  Not while I worked on 
the design - I knew (and still know) that I have too little 
understanding of semantics to standardize anything.

I tried at times to come up with rules of thumb useful for English 
speakers learning Lojban (i.e translation strategies), but I don't think 
I ever codified any of them, and certainly never made them part of the 
language definition.

> The Nootka experience is directly relevant here, since what you got from
> sentences were, in Lojban, merely complex selbri, not bridi at all for
> lack of a sumti.  Nootka is apparently a property or process language
> which can express complete sentences without a reference to things.

The example I worked from, mentioned in some article, was in fact a 
sentence expressed as a single word, presumably a brivla in Lojban 
terms, so that was how I tried to translate it.

If Nootka is indeed a property language, then probably other languages 
from the same family are, as well.  I think that was Pacific Northwest 
Amerind - no idea what other languages are related.

lojbab

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