Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 00:43:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Robin does the xorban (was Re: [lojban] Baby Words: "you're
 right" and orders.)
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On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:56:57 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote:
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 06:42:00PM +0200, selpa'i wrote: 
> > la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e 
> > >1.  How would you mark a {ko} that's an order?  I use {e'o} for 
> > >requests.  For "You must do this!" I've been using {ga'i}, but 
> > >it's a tad unsatisfying. 
> > 
> > The currently proposed BPFK meaning for {.e'i} is just that. 
> > {.e'i} becomes an irrealis attitudinal marking a command/order. 
> > Although this may seem like a big change to definition of the 
> > word, it seems to be the only way to express orders of this kind, 
> > so: 
> > 
> > {.e'i do na broda} 
> > 
> > I'm not sure I am 100% behind this definition, but the above 
> > argument speaks for it. 
>
> Given the incredibly tiny usage of {.e'i} according to the corpus 
> application (250 uses on IRC, and essentially none elsewhere, 
> especially if you ignore xorxes' usages since this was his 
> tinkering), I've decided that my household dialect will, in fact, 
> use {.e'i} as a command imperative. 
>

who has approved of it:
1.camgusmis
2.gleki

who is against it:
1.


> I do not, at this time, mean to impose this on anyone else, but I 
> thouht it was worth publically noting. 
>
> -Robin 
>

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<br><br>On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:56:57 PM UTC+4, Robin Powell wrote:<b=
lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;borde=
r-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 06:42:00=
PM +0200, selpa'i wrote:
<br>&gt; la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e
<br>&gt; &gt;1. &nbsp;How would you mark a {ko} that's an order? &nbsp;I us=
e {e'o} for
<br>&gt; &gt;requests. &nbsp;For "You must do this!" I've been using {ga'i}=
, but
<br>&gt; &gt;it's a tad unsatisfying.
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; The currently proposed BPFK meaning for {.e'i} is just that.
<br>&gt; {.e'i} becomes an irrealis attitudinal marking a command/order.
<br>&gt; Although this may seem like a big change to definition of the
<br>&gt; word, it seems to be the only way to express orders of this kind,
<br>&gt; so:
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; {.e'i do na broda}
<br>&gt;=20
<br>&gt; I'm not sure I am 100% behind this definition, but the above
<br>&gt; argument speaks for it.
<br>
<br>Given the incredibly tiny usage of {.e'i} according to the corpus
<br>application (250 uses on IRC, and essentially none elsewhere,
<br>especially if you ignore xorxes' usages since this was his
<br>tinkering), I've decided that my household dialect will, in fact,
<br>use {.e'i} as a command imperative.
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>who has approved of it:</div><div>1.ca=
mgusmis</div><div>2.gleki</div><div><br></div><div>who is against it:</div>=
<div>1.</div><div><br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
in: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>I do not, at this time, mean to impose this on anyone else, but I
<br>thouht it was worth publically noting.
<br>
<br>-Robin
<br></blockquote>

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