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Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 03:56:19 -0700
From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
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On Wed, May 01, 2013 at 12:57:10AM -0700, la gleki wrote:
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 11:23:07 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 13:18:28 Craig Daniel wrote: 
> > > Buckwheat is not a grain, yet soba is still a type of noodle. 
> >
> > It's a norgru, so I'd still call soba "grusko". Or it could be "xubysko", 
> > unless there's some other kind of string made from xruba. 
> >
> > > Fettuccine are not cylindrical, but they're definitely a noodle as well. 
> >
> > I'd call them "grusri" or "nabysri". 
> >
> > On Tuesday, April 30, 2013 10:50:56 Robin Lee Powell wrote: 
> > > On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:47:15AM -0600, Jonathan Jones wrote: 
> > > > I'm still behind {pasta}. I'd be hard pressed to find a better 
> > > > word than that. 
> > > 
> > > I would want to know where that word originated, how long it's been 
> > > aronud, what other words have been around longer, etc., before 
> > > simply importing a word from English. 
> >
> > The word is from Latin from Ancient Greek and exists in all of the source 
> > languages except Chinese (in which the word is "mein" or "mian" depending 
> > on 
> > how you transliterate the dialects). (Quick Wiktionary check.) I've seen 
> > it 
> > used in Portuguese for a small briefcase, and the primary meaning in 
> > Russian 
> > is "paste" (which is likewise from Latin "pasta"), but it is also used for 
> > "pasta" in Russian. 
> >
> 
> In Mandarin it's just "Italian noodles".
> In Russian it's usually  "makarony".
> 
> I won't run the algorithm because it will for sure mutilate this word.
> Sorry no other ideas (except removing the word {pastu} that has 29 
> occurrencies in the corpus).

Oh, I forgot about pastu (or, rather, I forgot that it conflicts).
Actually, I use it almost daily; it's the word we use for
http://www.amazon.com/Front-Sleep-3-Pack-Months-LtYellow/dp/B004Q751CK/
and the like.

And I won't accept that conflict.  Sorry.

-Robin

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