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spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8fb1fff686c08104dba95b6c X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8fb1fff686c08104dba95b6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM, guskant wrote: > I'd really like to get some opinions on this. >> >> Would you prefer >> >> =EF=BF=BD .i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce frica >> =EF=BF=BD .i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci >> >> to be _read_ as: >> >> >> a) >> .i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce frica >> .i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci >> >> (that is, no indication of speaker change whatsoever) >> >> or b) >> .i =EF=BF=BDlu lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce frica li'u=EF= =BF=BD >> .i =EF=BF=BDlu ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci li'u=EF=BF=BD >> >> or c) >> some other way (in which case I'd like to know how). >> >> > For your information, I did c) for my show at ponjo jbonunsla: > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DrV1TlMAmlWk > > I made one tap when a different speaker begins speaking, and two taps whe= n > the speaker finishes speaking. > The tap sound was made with my tap shoes. > doi guskant lo ve snada'i cu se smuni la'e di'u do uasai vau xu i pe'i lo go'i mi cladu savru je fanza .i sotpa'a lo nu do puza ciksi da'i .i mi pu na jimpe .i la'aru'e lo ni se fanza cu se jdika mi va'o lo nu da'i go'e -gejyspa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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= On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 9:11 PM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com>= wrote:
I'd really like to get some opinions on this.

Would you prefer

=EF=BF=BD .i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce fric= a
=EF=BF=BD .i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci

to be _read_ as:


a)
.i lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce frica
.i ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci

(that is, no indication of speaker change whatsoever)

or b)
.i =EF=BF=BDlu lo nolraitru cu ponse nagi'e turni .i mutce fr= ica li'u=EF=BF=BD
.i =EF=BF=BDlu ma do prali lo nu do ponse lo tarci li'u=EF=BF=BD

or c)
some other way (in which case I'd like to know how).


For your information, I did c) f= or my show at ponjo jbonunsla:

I made one tap=A0when a different speaker begins = speaking,=A0and two taps=A0when the speaker finishes speaking.
Th= e tap sound was made with my tap shoes.
=
doi guskant=A0
=A0 =A0lo ve snada'= ;i cu se smuni la'e di'u do uasai vau xu i pe'i lo go'i mi = cladu savru je fanza .i sotpa'a lo nu do puza ciksi da'i .i mi pu n= a jimpe .i la'aru'e lo ni se fanza cu se jdika mi =A0va'o lo nu= da'i go'e=A0

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -gejyspa


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