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Think of 'mi' as in the same class as 'lo' phrases, "the salient ...".=A0 O=
therwise you will=A0 get into all manner of paradoxes (as old as philosophy=
, for the most part) of no practical value.=A0=20


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To: lojban@googlegroups.com=20
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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:44 AM, la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote=
:

{lo pu me mi ku}, no? Again the same issue?That's not just the same issue, =
it's really the same thing, but phrased more precisely: "that which was "me=
"". But=20
when we say "I did something", it's {mi pu ...}. This is the same {mi},=20
so {lo pu me mi ku} is just {mi}. I started writing some about the philosop=
hical/language design issues here but ran out of time; I'll add to this lat=
er.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Think of '=
mi' as in the same class as 'lo' phrases, "the salient ...".&nbsp; Otherwis=
e you will&nbsp; get into all manner of paradoxes (as old as philosophy, fo=
r the most part) of no practical value.&nbsp; </span></div><div><br></div> =
 <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-s=
ize: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, s=
erif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">  <font face=3D"A=
rial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Ian=
 Johnson &lt;blindbravado@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: =
bold;">To:</span></b> lojban@googlegroups.com <br> <b><span style=3D"font-w=
eight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, May 2, 2013 8:26 AM<br> <b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [lojban] Time-(non)local su=
mti (was:
 Mixing tenses, on the beginners list)<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_m=
sg_container"><br>
<div id=3D"yiv602849276"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div class=3D"yiv602849276gm=
ail_quote">On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 3:44 AM, la gleki <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank" href=3D"mailto:gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com">gleki.is.my.name@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"yiv602849276gmail_quote" s=
tyle=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);pad=
ding-left:1ex;">
<div>{lo pu me mi ku}, no? Again the same issue?</div></blockquote></div>Th=
at's not just the same issue, it's really the same thing, but phrased more =
precisely: "that which was "me"". But=20
when we say "I did something", it's {mi pu ...}. This is the same {mi},=20
so {lo pu me mi ku} is just {mi}. I started writing some about the philosop=
hical/language design issues here but ran out of time; I'll add to this lat=
er.<br><br></div>mi'e la latro'a mu'o<br></div>


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