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 Content preview:  On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com>
    wrote: > This amounts to saying it can be local or nonlocal, but doesn't
   specify > how to *explicitly* state the distinction. The ability to make such
    > specifications (if the language supports them at all) is pretty much my
    > third axiom for Lojban design :) > > I don't think the language supports
    that disticntion via grammar (it can make it semantically just as you are
    making it in English, of course). If you want a grammatical support for the
    distinction, I guess the first step would be to show why it would be desirable.
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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

> This amounts to saying it can be local or nonlocal, but doesn't specify
> how to *explicitly* state the distinction. The ability to make such
> specifications (if the language supports them at all) is pretty much my
> third axiom for Lojban design :)
>
>
I don't think the language supports that disticntion via grammar (it can
make it semantically just as you are making it in English, of course). If
you want a grammatical support for the distinction, I guess the first step
would be to show why it would be desirable. Just because a distinction can
be made is not reason enough to make it.

(What are your other axioms?)

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:02 PM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
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&#39;t specify how to *explicitly* state the distinction. The ability to ma=
ke such specifications (if the language supports them at all) is pretty muc=
h my third axiom for Lojban design :)</span><br>

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nguage supports that disticntion via grammar (it can make it semantically j=
ust as you are making it in English, of course). If you want a grammatical =
support for the distinction, I guess the first step would be to show why it=
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nough to make it.</div>
<div><br></div><div style>(What are your other axioms?)</div><div><br></div=
><div style>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div style><br></div></div></div>=
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