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Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 22:08:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Time-(non)local sumti (was: Mixing tenses, on the
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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:48 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com>wrote:

> By context, as it says.  Remember, we are not talking about  the thing,
> but about how we talk about the thing.  I am what I am, but it is sometimes
> useful to talk about temporally delimited chunks of me (as it were, maybe
> clusters) and sometimes as the perduring me throughout time.  The nice
> thing about 'lo' is that it covers all options, down to temporo-spatial
> minute bits of me, and selects the relevant one.
>
The speaker != context. Context can indicate something, but my question was
about how the speaker can be explicit about it. That {lo} can zip around is
great, but we should be able to boss it around, too.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 9:48 PM, John E Clifford <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kali9putra@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">kali=
9putra@yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote">
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x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><span>By context, as it says.=
=A0 Remember, we are not talking about=A0 the thing, but about how we talk =
about the thing.=A0 I am what I am, but it is sometimes useful to talk abou=
t temporally delimited chunks of me (as it were, maybe clusters) and someti=
mes as the perduring me throughout time.=A0 The nice thing about &#39;lo=
9; is that it covers all options, down to temporo-spatial minute bits of me=
, and selects the relevant one.</span></div>
</div></div></blockquote><div style>The speaker !=3D context. Context can i=
ndicate something, but my question was about how the speaker can be explici=
t about it. That {lo} can zip around is great, but we should be able to bos=
s it around, too.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o=A0<br></di=
v></div></div></div>

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