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Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 20:34:01 -0600
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Time-(non)local sumti (was: Mixing tenses, on the
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On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Ian Johnson <blindbravado@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> {lo ze'e me mi}?
>>
> But is there one of those?
>

I'd say that depends on your definition of what "me" is. If you think the
individual is the enduring soul, which never ceases to exist, then yes.

Of course this requires you to believe there is a soul.

If you believe that an individual is only that person while alive, then no,
so you'd have to say "the whole /lifetime/" instead of "the whole of time".

-- 
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On T=
hu, May 2, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Ian Johnson <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:blindbravado@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blindbravado@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"im">On Thu, M=
ay 2, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Jonathan Jones <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:eyeonus@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br>
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"i=
m">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">{lo ze&#39;e me mi}?</div><=
/blockquote></div><div>But is there one of those?</div></div></div></div></=
blockquote>
</div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">I&#39;d say that depends on your=
 definition of what &quot;me&quot; is. If you think the individual is the e=
nduring soul, which never ceases to exist, then yes.<br><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra">
Of course this requires you to believe there is a soul.<br><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra">If you believe that an individual is only that person =
while alive, then no, so you&#39;d have to say &quot;the whole /lifetime/&q=
uot; instead of &quot;the whole of time&quot;.<br clear=3D"all">
</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>-- <br>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e .aionys.<br><=
br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&#=
39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>
</div></div>

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