Received: from mail-gh0-f187.google.com ([209.85.160.187]:49488) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UY6VU-0002EC-MR for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 02 May 2013 20:18:13 -0700 Received: by mail-gh0-f187.google.com with SMTP id 16sf335663ghy.4 for ; Thu, 02 May 2013 20:17:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=wVQZ9odZOlQPKyyFua/Sf16jS5ySpFZPGnoyoAaQzw0=; b=C8dOTscuAdbRyjU7dBTcDmpB/mJVP9CuHY9vHAGo8sTFuJN0iE2TGpK24GUDSzrUR2 CFCv9d183IRjRGlfvmLkTLLKbUVOrfiDQQqB/bN6fLBXfWmKCP0d+69yTtr0A886//lj ncqztt2ubVFUC9X6+4BaqUFa68IMooyyf7t3lu+/2wFWdCRiEx0orQaemr84rezRPUyT nz3Cc466nWScJeQt1w2kPyzjS5NJJXKZkNDwM0AC1t6mYdfuFV712epJ+cEpwNUmnf4u KNfE3+dSLjXGIb3WlQTT8TCw63fRcOoBSNkvYM2xMCnorASFrknRTH7L5N4ravaL3DSI 4cTg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=wVQZ9odZOlQPKyyFua/Sf16jS5ySpFZPGnoyoAaQzw0=; b=GagAcql/quQaJuZL7Gn3I+jNjOo6eXk0UgnmD9CQctP//mfiYFKJBWzzNlI4oEFx+p 4oGx0DqHkjSfItgb5PoCqbljvbxZYBi/JPnDMD3ndTTGoz4Vit3RzQNoDoz/vSJNIKAd M7CL43DQd0xmNUVEQh5ODAL1sdiZ1dJ+qPXIZu7ahZpfXH3Tp3e1My9aVAPijp+6EI1d 0x1wKFfJSquauCgaJkFx+n4Hhk5NAutIdH4HYXCfdXSaYCdcDm75i/6W/SFrnt1VRDLX dGyfSLMmL7tL/3Ki9G1l6Q5QdVDPsK6/ZYn4EwDDf75GT38m1kujPzXTBdBBa1mcgG1A trxA== X-Received: by 10.50.153.101 with SMTP id vf5mr1373163igb.11.1367551073130; Thu, 02 May 2013 20:17:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.1.42 with SMTP id 10ls168695igj.8.canary; Thu, 02 May 2013 20:17:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.1.71 with SMTP id 7mr9826991igk.7.1367551071740; Thu, 02 May 2013 20:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (mail-ie0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f8si43024igh.0.2013.05.02.20.17.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 02 May 2013 20:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236; Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id a14so1437281iee.27 for ; Thu, 02 May 2013 20:17:51 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.95.195 with SMTP id g3mr4031554icn.14.1367551071643; Thu, 02 May 2013 20:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.102.74 with HTTP; Thu, 2 May 2013 20:17:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1367549867.52247.YahooMailNeo@web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1367501520.18899.YahooMailNeo@web184401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1367545687.61732.YahooMailNeo@web184401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1367547795.19621.YahooMailNeo@web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1367549867.52247.YahooMailNeo@web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 23:17:51 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Time-(non)local sumti (was: Mixing tenses, on the beginners list) From: Ian Johnson To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: blindbravado@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of blindbravado@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=blindbravado@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf30334861d6bba704dbc7cb49 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf30334861d6bba704dbc7cb49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:57 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > Well, you may like the expression better, but it has nothing to do with > what there is or is not. > Sure, I didn't go as far as to say that one makes sense and the other doesn't. I just think time-varying properties of time-nonlocal sumti is easier to understand than the opposite. mi'e la latro'a mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --20cf30334861d6bba704dbc7cb49 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:57 PM, John E Clifford <kali= 9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, you may like the e= xpression better, but it has nothing to do with what there is or is not.
Sure, I didn't go as far as to say = that one makes sense and the other doesn't. I just think time-varying p= roperties of time-nonlocal sumti is easier to understand than the opposite.=

mi'e la latro'a mu'o=A0

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