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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: That sounds like what at least the recipient would call a demand or bossing or ordering about, all implying that the ordered has no power to command. Sent from my iPad On May 4, 2013, at 18:39, Betsemes wrote: [...] Content analysis details: (1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: googlegroups.com] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (kali9putra[at]yahoo.com) 0.0 DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED No valid author signature, adsp_override is CUSTOM_MED -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD 'From' yahoo.com does not match 'Received' headers 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid That sounds like what at least the recipient would call a demand or bossing or ordering about, all implying that the ordered has no power to command. Sent from my iPad On May 4, 2013, at 18:39, Betsemes wrote: > When I think of this subject about giving commands, the mental image I > get is about someone trusting his command will be obeyed. Constraint, > agression, or hauteur comes as a sign of someone who has not any > significant authority, so some additional force have to be used on the > command in order to be obeyed. That's just my very personal take of > this about commands. > > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Robin Lee Powell > wrote: >> On Sat, May 04, 2013 at 10:23:51PM +0200, selpa'i wrote: >>> la .camgusmis. cu cusku di'e >>>> I think {le'o} and {ga'i} between them do what I want, depending >>>> on situation. >>> >>> This would seem to imply that all commands are either expressed >>> aggressively or with hauteur, which I personally find doubtful. >>> There is a certain force behind a command, but the nature of that >>> force needn't correspond to one of those two, in my opinion. >>> >>> Has {.e'i} fallen out of favor with you again? >> >> Eeeeenh? Having noticed {le'o}, I simply acknowledged that that was >> what I really wanted, in terms of emotional content. I'm on the >> fence about {.e'i} (which never stopped being true). >> >> -Robin >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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