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Date: Sun, 5 May 2013 10:57:04 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Robin retry: commands.
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On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 10:09 AM, John E. Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wr=
ote:
> Oops! "orderer", not "ordered" (autocorrect kicks in at weird places). In=
 any case, the point is that the attitude of the one uttering the imperativ=
e has nothing to do with whether it is a command or not; that is an objecti=
ve power calculation (with some fine print, perhaps).  Similarly for reques=
ts and pleas.  Demands are somewhat different, but still not much about att=
itudes, etc.

Okay, I see what you're saying which is mostly what I'm trying to say.
The whole thread is dealing with attitudes; hauteur, constraint, etc.
and to the extent of my knowledge, attitude is of little importance
for a command to be a command. To me, self-confidence is key to a good
commander and yet nobody was dealing with that. A command can be
delivered in a relaxed manner too.

My whole point is I think an attitudinal is not the way to go to mark
a command as a command and not a request. But this is an opinion of
mine. My personal take on this is that the difference between a
command and a request is that carrying out a request is optional,
carrying out a command is a requirement.

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