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la gleki cu cusku di'e
> On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 4:14:40 AM UTC+4, tsani wrote:
>     In case we're taking votes, I vote in favour of redefining it.
>     Dialectically, it is already used that way by the handful of typical
>     IRC jbopre.
>
>
>
> I vote against redefining it. For me
>
> e'i = sei bilga
> ei = sei te javni
> e'o = sei cpedu
>
> and so on.
>
> if u redefine e'i as command then we lose {sei bilga} meaning. If you
> use .ei for that then we lose {sei te javni} meaning.

je'e .i va'o ku da tai ma minde .i zo'o ko na stidi tu'a lu sei minde 
li'u .i pe'i lo nu minde cu vajni mutce .i .e'o do stidi su'o pa lu'a lo 
te cuxna

> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Irrealis+Attitudinals has the
> following text:
>
> "selpa'i uses {.ei} as "should" and {.e'i} as "must" (as in {.e'i mi'o
> denpa .i lo sorpeka pu'o zvati}), I (camgusmis) think that's pretty
> good. The {.e'e} here is obviously out of the question, and I think
> keeping something like "must" is worth it, too, and closer to what we have."

ie .i mi pu cusku la'e di'u .i ku'i pe'i lo cnino smuni be zo .e'i ku 
ji'a plixau

ni'o ta'o mi na sai tugni lo du'u la'e zo .e'e na ka'e se junri .i pe'i 
prane smuni zo .e'e .i mi nelci mutce .i je'u zo .e'e zo .e'i zmadu lo 
ka mi nelci lo se stidi smuni be ce'u kei lo barda .i na mo'u jdice fi 
zo .e'i .i ku'i ja'a go'i fi zo .e'e

> I don't know what happened to that obvious solution.

xu ja'a danfu .i za'a dai lo ji'a drata cu sidbo

> In any case please don't deprive me of {sei bilga} and {sei te javni}.

xu do birti lo du'u lu sei te javni li'u mapti da'i

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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