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In a spoken language, such degrees of complexity are very unlikely and will=
 be worked around if the need ever actually were to arise.=A0 In a written =
language as used by a certain kind of pedant, they are possible -- even lik=
ely -- and something must be designed to save them!=A0 Not!


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 From: Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com>
To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" <lojban@googlegroups.com>=20
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: [lojban] Higher-precedence Grouping with {bo} Is Impossible for TA=
G Sentence Connectives
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The title says it all; the following won't parse:

{.i broda .ija'ebo brode .iseri'abobo brodi}

Semantically, it should parse meaning that {.i brode .iseri'abo brodi} is t=
he right-hand operand of {.ija'ebo}.

On a related note, even-higher-precedence grouping with bo is not possible =
for ijeks; the following won't parse:

.i (broda .ijebo (brode .ijebo ((brodi .ijebobo brodo) .ijebo brodu)))

Parentheses show intended parse.

Furthermore, multiple {bo} are not allowed in tanru groupings:

{.i (broda bo ((brode bo bo brodi) bo brodo))}

It just seems like multiple {bo} is illegal across the board. Bug or featur=
e? Could this even be implemented? If it can, should we?

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
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<html><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:ti=
mes new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">In a spoken language,=
 such degrees of complexity are very unlikely and will be worked around if =
the need ever actually were to arise.&nbsp; In a written language as used b=
y a certain kind of pedant, they are possible -- even likely -- and somethi=
ng must be designed to save them!&nbsp; Not!<br><div><span><br></span></div=
><div><br></div>  <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, tim=
es, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, n=
ew york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <hr size=3D"1">=
  <font face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Fro=
m:</span></b> Jacob Errington &lt;nictytan@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "lojban@googlegroups.com" &lt;lojban=
@googlegroups.com&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</spa=
n></b>
 Saturday, May 11, 2013 8:37 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">S=
ubject:</span></b> [lojban] Higher-precedence Grouping with {bo} Is Impossi=
ble for TAG Sentence Connectives<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_con=
tainer"><br>
<div id=3D"yiv767862193"><div dir=3D"ltr">The title says it all; the follow=
ing won't parse:<div><br></div><div style=3D"">{.i broda .ija'ebo brode .is=
eri'abobo brodi}</div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">Semanticall=
y, it should parse meaning that {.i brode .iseri'abo brodi} is the right-ha=
nd operand of {.ija'ebo}.</div>

<div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">On a related note, even-higher-pr=
ecedence grouping with bo is not possible for ijeks; the following won't pa=
rse:</div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">.i (broda .ijebo (brode=
 .ijebo ((brodi .ijebobo brodo) .ijebo brodu)))</div>

<div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">Parentheses show intended parse.<=
/div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">Furthermore, multiple {bo} a=
re not allowed in tanru groupings:</div><div style=3D""><br></div><div styl=
e=3D"">{.i (broda bo ((brode bo bo brodi) bo brodo))}</div>

<div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">It just seems like multiple {bo} =
is illegal across the board. Bug or feature? Could this even be implemented=
? If it can, should we?</div><div style=3D""><br></div><div style=3D"">.i m=
i'e la tsani mu'o</div>

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