Received: from mail-wg0-f59.google.com ([74.125.82.59]:47043) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UbXN6-0005Az-Sa for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:42 -0700 Received: by mail-wg0-f59.google.com with SMTP id b12sf1219593wgh.24 for ; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=T7rW0+Kp08/Jj8v++qpU2E/6aoTsPiT/tTbWYaF40R4=; b=ZJx0bjCj8vyL7Zf/fZyRW1SExQKyRvVUFPPKTRIcXxD2vJu6iSP0f7Y2fXcV9A1AO1 yOJNSqv6ZziwwDUC7jM/i4QAKFiK3lhUb/g32uzovV5WEckDEGBYUv6FfCyBIjYVz4C6 ebgel3MFvEco/7MF+p3TOKlfHObRLiizpG3r0atT7DTtdRCecP0qNcFuEnLZtpe67Vev /7VgHmwvXUpLKv8n6ivlhweVL2/F5x+6IoM+mrmkZmHGIByA36VR6A3zhiYc3pBmqsmx tTtu+MV07ro9scYXRnODaMUrUmsydp4D+EE2Bj9A+LvIduvR1xdSS1yiaXi5/G2myZtW 3Fvg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:mime-version :x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=T7rW0+Kp08/Jj8v++qpU2E/6aoTsPiT/tTbWYaF40R4=; b=vlvt/POTBp6EGdaCFMQyOtcPB3EDaZuegZ0YXlediap48Y+QvZs8F2WR7s4iPxGVV2 Fw+EICZ48gfMFrM2j4Tpvt7c5xnR3GqZ394/d0y3RdxdDrF8k2ZPFlL1rHcwEEqs9BFR WZNp8peDhwL/zJUMP9Q9An8k5T+VE8h8sW4jKYNFto/sSiBd+i2Wkd2TKQTqp9dZWJ21 /mIF0NPuMzwdhUXgDGtoNA34F0QRZ348io6XZCclLfmeEZWbkR5Z5HLzxWZ3kfjJPorz /4BkYGtxWvzzpgF9UV27Wd4kOlkKv6LWQz/mtpG81hGzcAt0N6gUKz10PzcQCjqsefsl l02g== X-Received: by 10.180.182.197 with SMTP id eg5mr663601wic.6.1368369325436; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:25 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.100.201 with SMTP id fa9ls573760wib.12.canary; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.175.2 with SMTP id v2mr3997936bkz.7.1368369324625; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x229.google.com (mail-la0-x229.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fc12si729024bkc.1.2013.05.12.07.35.24 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::229; Received: by mail-la0-x229.google.com with SMTP id lx15so2919842lab.14 for ; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.121.9 with SMTP id lg9mr11227699lab.39.1368369324428; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.146.137 with HTTP; Sun, 12 May 2013 07:35:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1368325826.2157.YahooMailNeo@web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1368325826.2157.YahooMailNeo@web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 10:35:24 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Higher-precedence Grouping with {bo} Is Impossible for TAG Sentence Connectives From: Betsemes To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: betsemes@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=betsemes@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:30 PM, John E Clifford wrote: > In a spoken language, such degrees of complexity are very unlikely and will > be worked around if the need ever actually were to arise. In a written > language as used by a certain kind of pedant, they are possible -- even > likely -- and something must be designed to save them! Not! Speaking as a computer programmer, I had complained many times whenever a language won't allow something I want to do and I must look for a workaround. Fortunately, Lojban doesn't rely on a compiler for it to work and the human brain is far more flexible. So, if the parser won't allow it, but the intended audience would understand, then BREAK THE MABLA RULES!!!! mu'o mi'e betsemes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.