Received: from mail-ye0-f187.google.com ([209.85.213.187]:53934) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UcFwS-0001fM-6N for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:11:12 -0700 Received: by mail-ye0-f187.google.com with SMTP id r13sf213702yen.24 for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=NfQSuRvML3VDG32qG5vS+oynIF2kbIdqNfGWt/EJy6A=; b=C95HNs8oDwQEj9exmxB4zUonhLubyaz3FqzaczKSS0MjZ/gWLeLm5qHKzd26NUcWMG cLVk1ihi4jIRRcSTlaIpXpJ/Rwvan/GCTyzgHpu0JE84h1+aduwUoYSGfw4AgTYrKAvw JYeIf2f4uJTc+omdPmpPmk5gWdGPRmtiJR3Z8RUw/VsvDYhkwF5KZvAFAV6FL/2qJZLb jZCRXIueEq6cmV4DYAR82L/NnfL//dZq2mQdBupFCjfkYX1yp04WpKZapCt68vuHis1P kC9mWhn7xyIz6K4R3SXpdt4/bSmr8di3F0pQqF2eSQailoQ9XA6PPOPgXAdqKEPSrJBt XpWQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-beenthere:x-received:received-spf:x-received :mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id:list-post :list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-type; bh=NfQSuRvML3VDG32qG5vS+oynIF2kbIdqNfGWt/EJy6A=; b=SFx/lho5TrHZSRxjbloH6WVkjFYx5c2f1Yjw2ZuMZ0QE/yaIr5rWZF7i38ntmvpgvW cJhoV3hl8xPmDybVQAtq/XB+XhN2Tyo62dECzH0pNkAmk5kN8SueEMeK1IAxZGj5RKll K9459EfkKdbIRvK0BYacPIpVpGhiF48A0fAw5P82ag7T21AoCjO7lUqdz7roqaB2KLWJ f1+irXGtELCztTyOURTYRdhTl7BvhFYaypInZrE9ScN/84vVuBOk1rTk8TLYXmvLZ2W2 okwTL9Ekp+4roCGVlIJgIUMdk9XDQ4ezjI419bNJYGF9iFuk+o+0bIJX4oBAAMGj24JL o8LQ== X-Received: by 10.49.41.1 with SMTP id b1mr2400765qel.18.1368540653985; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.58.172 with SMTP id s12ls228387qeq.18.gmail; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.58.247.34 with SMTP id yb2mr11751280vec.31.1368540653551; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ve0-x236.google.com (mail-ve0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id bv18si2144892vdc.1.2013.05.14.07.10.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236; Received: by mail-ve0-x236.google.com with SMTP id da11so645017veb.27 for ; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.52.230.201 with SMTP id ta9mr18763559vdc.119.1368540653489; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.116.204 with HTTP; Tue, 14 May 2013 07:10:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1432954.NhihRhzkXP@caracal> References: <1432954.NhihRhzkXP@caracal> From: Jacob Errington Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 10:10:33 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Higher-precedence Grouping with {bo} Is Impossible for TAG Sentence Connectives To: "lojban@googlegroups.com" X-Original-Sender: nictytan@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of nictytan@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=nictytan@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d9f2283195904dcae337f X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e010d9f2283195904dcae337f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On 13 May 2013 22:15, Pierre Abbat wrote: > (Resending; it didn't come back the first time.) > On Saturday, May 11, 2013 21:37:42 Jacob Errington wrote: > > The title says it all; the following won't parse: > > > > {.i broda .ija'ebo brode .iseri'abobo brodi} > > > > It just seems like multiple {bo} is illegal across the board. Bug or > > feature? Could this even be implemented? If it can, should we? > > There's only one level of precedence with "bo". If you want more, use "ke". > ".i broda .ija'eke brode .iseri'abo brodi" parses, but "ke" is implicitly > terminated just after "brode". I suggest ".ikeja'e", which currently > doesn't > parse. > And your first suggestion doesn't give the desired parse. It has ja'e as a tag in front of a selbri (thus the ku doesn't appear as elided) and ke simply acting as a tanru-bracket. In the case of sentence-connectives, the brackets are tu'u..tu'e. mi'e la tsani mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. 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On 13 May 2013 22:15, Pierre Abbat <<= a href=3D"mailto:phma@bezitopo.org" target=3D"_blank">phma@bezitopo.org= > wrote:
(Resending; it didn't come back the first time.)
On Saturday, May 11, 2013 21:37:42 Jacob Errington wrote:=
> The title says it all; the following won't parse:
>
> {.i broda .ija'ebo brode .iseri'abobo brodi}
>
> It just seems like multiple {bo} is illegal ac= ross the board. Bug or
> feature? Could this even be implemented? If it can, should we?

There's only one level of precedence with "bo". If you = want more, use "ke".
".i broda .ija'eke brode .iseri'abo brodi" parses, but &q= uot;ke" is implicitly
terminated just after "brode". I suggest ".ikeja'e"= , which currently doesn't
parse.


And your fi= rst suggestion doesn't give the desired parse. It has ja'e as a tag= in front of a selbri (thus the ku doesn't appear as elided) and ke sim= ply acting as a tanru-bracket.

In the case of sentence-connectives, the br= ackets are tu'u..tu'e.

mi'= e la tsani mu'o=A0

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