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I'm not sure this is the same thing, but how does one distinguish in Lojban
between the ORs in "Coffee, or tea?", i.e., a choice between alternatives,
vs. the logical OR with truth values.

stevo


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Michael Turniansky
<mturniansky@gmail.com>wrote:

>   I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "non-logical 'or'"?
>  --gejyspa
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> ni'o la selpa'i ku cusku di'e
>> >ni'o ie lo tokpona cu xamgu gi'a sampu
>>
>> ni'o sei banbau se'u zo gi'a logji valsi  .i mi te smuni lodo jufra la'e
>> zoi. aficalanguidjavlajbanistan. Toki Pona is good or simple
>> .aficalanguidjavlajbanistan. mu'a  .i ti'e lo si'o xamgu keiku ju'e lo si'o
>> sampu keiku se sidbo pa da lo selbau be lo tokpona sei dei jai nandu  .i mi
>> kucli .ibo da'i ma xe fanva zoi. gic. Toki Pona is good, or simple .gic.
>> sei me'o slaka bu cu se jundi .i va'i za'e friti su'ore lo valsi fi'o se
>> tavla fi lo mintu
>>
>> {gi'a} is a logical connector. In the context of Selpa'i's sentence, a
>> non-logical 'or' could also be expected. Phrasing things differently to
>> encircle the intended meaning. How to do that in Lojban?
>>
>> Also, my use of {mintu} is nonsense, I fear (mintu ma?).
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;m not sure this is the same thing, but how does one =
distinguish in Lojban between the ORs in &quot;Coffee, or tea?&quot;, i.e.,=
 a choice between alternatives, vs. the logical OR with truth values.=A0<di=
v>

<br></div><div style>stevo</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 4:21 PM, Michael Turniansk=
y <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mturniansky@gmail.com" target=3D"=
_blank">mturniansky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 I&#39;m not quite sure =
what you mean by a &quot;non-logical &#39;or&#39;&quot;?<div class=3D"gmail=
_extra">

=A0--gejyspa</div><div><div class=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br=
><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM, iesk <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:pa.fae@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">pa.fae@gmx.=
de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">ni&#39;o la selpa&#39;i ku cusku di&#39;e<br=
>
&gt;ni&#39;o ie lo tokpona cu xamgu gi&#39;a sampu<br>
<br>
ni&#39;o sei banbau se&#39;u zo gi&#39;a logji valsi =A0.i mi te smuni lodo=
 jufra la&#39;e zoi. aficalanguidjavlajbanistan. Toki Pona is good or simpl=
e .aficalanguidjavlajbanistan. mu&#39;a =A0.i ti&#39;e lo si&#39;o xamgu ke=
iku ju&#39;e lo si&#39;o sampu keiku se sidbo pa da lo selbau be lo tokpona=
 sei dei jai nandu =A0.i mi kucli .ibo da&#39;i ma xe fanva zoi. gic. Toki =
Pona is good, or simple .gic. sei me&#39;o slaka bu cu se jundi .i va&#39;i=
 za&#39;e friti su&#39;ore lo valsi fi&#39;o se tavla fi lo mintu<br>


<br>
{gi&#39;a} is a logical connector. In the context of Selpa&#39;i&#39;s sent=
ence, a non-logical &#39;or&#39; could also be expected. Phrasing things di=
fferently to encircle the intended meaning. How to do that in Lojban?<br>


<br>
Also, my use of {mintu} is nonsense, I fear (mintu ma?).<br>
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