Received: from mail-fa0-f63.google.com ([209.85.161.63]:41803) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UdhHq-0001eR-2K for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:35:08 -0700 Received: by mail-fa0-f63.google.com with SMTP id v1sf372516fav.8 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qS3S8YXCNoOEsS41elAhZpOmAFHwpbXejuhE4/b1CPI=; b=mMyrZsy2rvfvXqmPgvXeftbz8SKEgPr38YshbDZ84j4FCrwt7JB/8M8tMrc8HHvqEM 2VJb3wxI1bdmm36rNhJJFn/yT6XwGEEPK5L8raun8rzGJn2eLtl+ai7ZjqqrO0wwv7f0 P3IwSboWak9p6hhn5twJTVKVLODM5I9JqvZcdf+0etKPcmK08woPT26iORlONNDWUkVj pUmdBZV3jTW6aZ0aWaLGZRwIshe719aEat+1P6MfuEW5wFAY6fdBphyf3YlW0ZX8kwFX 7Yh/67+HWMgaXzTppvBjQnOf90tKf7k5251dJJiGynHaK9hFJue8/d6UwIO4q+fa/ovv l4/g== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qS3S8YXCNoOEsS41elAhZpOmAFHwpbXejuhE4/b1CPI=; b=dtioMTj9oOxoCxX25KjhmRdJ65hjKyJOBY9XAv83YtKtasrjAnAQ2OtI9IacCxdW+w mwkJTe8n3PJ+qcTCAUMK06OUVjzjrOOuMfLMM20spJg9mLTi8j4JcTewEv+PHIMUxmGA FkTqxIZSa/a00SNaChsKhV45FqVe94kNiMHzCkDaHGkbxVZDiMlOvh72OiQdswjJprWy g+1PLP9FcqI4k944RvoHt2joONy/HG1L+SgQW5P3U0eXmcTBi+4QtmjdhFjlGYJrc1Tc ksRvp9L1HUfEuL9g0cRPcT31zXvO+TKAwzFNW8oOQCVcTIfppPccvTVB7yZJQSKabzME mpFw== X-Received: by 10.180.11.148 with SMTP id q20mr93484wib.17.1368884094531; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:54 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.87.42 with SMTP id u10ls407889wiz.33.canary; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.205.32.144 with SMTP id sk16mr6235901bkb.4.1368884093996; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cm16si1322853bkb.0.2013.05.18.06.34.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.181; Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id w20so4798434lbh.26 for ; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.133.202 with SMTP id pe10mr4186289lbb.54.1368884093657; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.1.166 with HTTP; Sat, 18 May 2013 06:34:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5d22d3a4-46ca-4f77-bff4-5aa52f193e13@googlegroups.com> <5171110D.3010200@gmx.de> <3a8a2111-e2a8-4c40-bd66-66c6e26523b0@googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 07:34:53 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] 'good or simple' vs 'good, or simple' From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.181 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343302242acd04dcfe2a76 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b343302242acd04dcfe2a76 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Jacob Errington wrote: > Just throwing this out there. > > If the GIJA reform were to go through, then making new connectives would > be shockingly simple, as we wouldn't need to make ~6 varieties of the same > connective. That being said, it would be perfectly possible with GIJA in > place to make a new connective to be understood as separating a list of > alternatives from which the listener is to choose only one. Sadly, the > disadvantage is that this connective based system is poorly extensible; how > would we use it say "select 2" or 5 or 12 of the options. Subscripting is a > solution, I suppose. > > .i mi'e la tsani mu'o > Whereas what we have now is easily extended. {.i.e'u cuxna lo mumei ...} -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. 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On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM, Jacob Errington = <nictytan@gmail.= com> wrote:
Just thr= owing this out there.

If the GIJA reform were to go thro= ugh, then making new connectives would be shockingly simple, as we wouldn&#= 39;t need to make ~6 varieties of the same connective. That being said, it = would be perfectly possible with GIJA in place to make a new connective to = be understood as separating a list of alternatives from which the listener = is to choose only one. Sadly, the disadvantage is that this connective base= d system is poorly extensible; how would we use it say "select 2"= or 5 or 12 of the options. Subscripting is a solution, I suppose.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o
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Whereas what we have now is easil= y extended. {.i.e'u cuxna lo mumei ...}

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo piln= o be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Lu= ke, I am your father. :D )

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