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Neither (what I believe is the correct expansion): .e'u ge cuxna lo pamei lo ckafi gi cuxna lo pamei lo tcati nor: ge .e'u cuxna lo pamei lo ckafi gi .e'u cuxna lo pamei lo tcati (which I don't think is the correct expansion) are anything like what is wanted. mu'o mi'e xorxes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7bea420434641304dcfe5442 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM, Ian Johnson <= ;blindbravado@g= mail.com> wrote:
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 1:21 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

.i.e'u cuxna lo pamei lo ckafi .e lo tcati
You shouldn't have logical "and" there; I concede = that the irrealis attitudinal scope can be argued to fix it,=A0
=

How? Neither (what I bel= ieve is the correct expansion):

.e'u ge cuxna lo pamei lo ckafi gi cuxn= a lo pamei lo tcati

nor:

ge .e'u cuxna lo pamei lo ckafi gi .e'u cux= na lo pamei lo tcati=A0

(which I don't think is the correct exp= ansion) are anything like what is wanted.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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