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Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 18:28:25 -0400
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Subject: Re: [lojban] 'good or simple' vs 'good, or simple'
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On 19 May 2013 17:24, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

> I understand the use of {.a} here to mean "either one; it doesn't matter
> or I don't care". Why is this unhelpful? It happens in life all the time.
>
> stevo
>
>
Yes of course, but Ian's example was simply demonstrating a case when such
an answer is unacceptable, as it might be. The connective system can here
be seen as a double-edged sword, really: we can use it to concisely say,
"bring me either or both; I don't care," but in cases where the listener
must select only one option from a list of alternatives, we are at a bit of
a disadvantage. The natural, in-conversation solution involving {na'i}
makes sense though, as Ian outlined.

.i mi'e la tsani mu'o

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On 19 May 2013 17:24, MorphemeAddict <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lytlesw@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left=
:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">I understand the use of {.a} here to mean &quot;either one=
; it doesn&#39;t matter or I don&#39;t care&quot;. Why is this unhelpful? I=
t happens in life all the time.=A0<div><br></div><div>stevo</div><div><div =
class=3D"h5">


<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><b=
r></div><div style>Yes of course, but Ian&#39;s example was simply demonstr=
ating a case when such an answer is unacceptable, as it might be. The conne=
ctive system can here be seen as a double-edged sword, really: we can use i=
t to concisely say, &quot;bring me either or both; I don&#39;t care,&quot; =
but in cases where the listener must select only one option from a list of =
alternatives, we are at a bit of a disadvantage. The natural, in-conversati=
on solution involving {na&#39;i} makes sense though, as Ian outlined.=A0</d=
iv>

<div style><br></div><div style>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o</div></div></=
div></div>

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