Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 02:53:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de>
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Subject: Re: [lojban] 'good or simple' vs 'good, or simple'
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Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 22:21:29 UTC+2, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit :
>
>   I'm not quite sure what you mean by a "non-logical 'or'"?
>  --gejyspa
>

Well, as in =E2=80=98it is good, or simple=E2=80=98, where the =E2=80=98or=
=E2=80=99 is not used for=20
truth-functionality (TTTF), but an alternative phrasing of the same claim.

[eng]
It is good or simple.
=E2=86=92 It could be not good.
=E2=86=92 It could be not simple.

[jbo]
ko'a xamgu gi'a sampu
=E2=86=92 se cumki lo du'u ko'a na xamgu
=E2=86=92 se cumki lo du'u ko'a na sampu

[eng]
It is good, or simple.
=E2=86=92 It is good, which amounts to saying it is simple.

[jbo]
? ko'a xamgu co sampu
? ko'a xamgu sampu
? ko'a xamgu .i sampu
? ko'a xamgu gi'e sampu
? ko'a xamgu ku'a sampu
? ko'a xamgu cei sampu
? ko'a xamgu to'i sampu toi

Is there a casual way of throwing two or more words at your tersku to=20
outline the intended meaning without committing to those words=E2=80=99 log=
ical=20
relations? Or is that just not the way they talk in Lojbanistan?

-iesk

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Le vendredi 17 mai 2013 22:21:29 UTC+2, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit&nbsp;:<blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left=
: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; I'm not quite =
sure what you mean by a "non-logical 'or'"?<div>&nbsp;--gejyspa</div></div>=
</blockquote><div><br>Well, as in =E2=80=98it is good, or simple=E2=80=98, =
where the =E2=80=98or=E2=80=99 is not used for truth-functionality (TTTF), =
but an alternative phrasing of the same claim.<br><br>[eng]<br>It is good o=
r simple.<br>=E2=86=92 It could be not good.<br>=E2=86=92 It could be not s=
imple.<br><br>[jbo]<br>ko'a xamgu gi'a sampu<br>=E2=86=92 se cumki lo du'u =
ko'a na xamgu<br>=E2=86=92 se cumki lo du'u ko'a na sampu<br><br>[eng]<br>I=
t is good, or simple.<br>=E2=86=92 It is good, which amounts to saying it i=
s simple.<br><br>[jbo]<br>? ko'a xamgu co sampu<br>? ko'a xamgu sampu<br>? =
ko'a xamgu .i sampu<br>? ko'a xamgu gi'e sampu<br>? ko'a xamgu ku'a sampu<b=
r>? ko'a xamgu cei sampu<br>? ko'a xamgu to'i sampu toi<br><br>Is there a c=
asual way of throwing two or more words at your tersku to outline the inten=
ded meaning without committing to those words=E2=80=99 logical relations? O=
r is that just not the way they talk in Lojbanistan?<br><br>-iesk<br></div>

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