Received: from mail-pb0-f62.google.com ([209.85.160.62]:37416) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UeQLM-000175-7J for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:50 -0700 Received: by mail-pb0-f62.google.com with SMTP id md12sf756667pbc.7 for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UYrLt0sR5OfdzQKOPRWeFs63typF/2bUPKleHmcijns=; b=dBpNULc1M+2on5s2sdcbgJ8hbX4EaRcNUDaWnn6ggozUppb15yF3A/DImIY3Uz5RlO unPeYPNUXkGq/62fx89Ig+L/J6eeu1KSTs06QgBz4U+8uNgN6941hc4C7Yf2wEt5YAle LSXY2fjfwGK2hsw+nN1i68CKAKs2ghkoRoyfK6RCjHxqI5DbAwlCOS+ze21jtT+ha4GN wtMRI57qnC6GWTD8s1tsatXbKRUTowmlpHx/a6c4Csd7pVtLRTIQVcljokTI1Wmdv3Wz h4bSl/9mdURGhHHjIJnHZUH9SHc1P06gh+5oGGQNIEWlTgTUYpt3myZxIbAGsZVSy++c UbKg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=UYrLt0sR5OfdzQKOPRWeFs63typF/2bUPKleHmcijns=; b=LgcvA/xxRN7ieCKbjrkrJATFCFH6ao/nKx8j/eA32I3nqTki6Yuon1rN7UUqLRvSdC dqGpGDeC5bMfpijUDyhdzP/a+MiEabKRbyujvhNU132aU58q9Z4O+deJQ5Ty+qdebo4H GTLF9/erCysvz2dJVhSCM79yrgm52dKO/DmhNSX3T30jaHR0AjA9+D2sTEBIW9WIogbD 0fcIEWJP0oQllMmChT68NcWezckRMnwbqGvNgjDlXoZEf/XARDsy+hRQSxqJkHEsDtH8 kK3OgsHUI7gecUuSJDCUoFq5INIuAPxadrdpzkIdqLnger07mKyxsWdcvViPUM7kf90n kUjg== X-Received: by 10.50.127.231 with SMTP id nj7mr790017igb.17.1369057293876; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.82.103 with SMTP id h7ls2154754igy.25.gmail; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.50.111.226 with SMTP id il2mr5185899igb.0.1369057293383; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b2si252926igl.1.2013.05.20.06.41.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.41 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.219.41; Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n9so7769374oag.14 for ; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:33 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.17.198 with SMTP id q6mr28028881oed.131.1369057292998; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.87.8 with HTTP; Mon, 20 May 2013 06:41:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5d22d3a4-46ca-4f77-bff4-5aa52f193e13@googlegroups.com> <5171110D.3010200@gmx.de> <3a8a2111-e2a8-4c40-bd66-66c6e26523b0@googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 09:41:32 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] 'good or simple' vs 'good, or simple' From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 209.85.219.41 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013d0710a05e0404dd267d3b X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e013d0710a05e0404dd267d3b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The problem is that you can't use the va'i alone in that sentence. Being a UI, it doesn't disturb the underlying grammar, and xamgu sampu would tanruize. That's why I had to add the ju'e. --gejyspa On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM, iesk wrote: > Le lundi 20 mai 2013 14:11:49 UTC+2, gejyspa a =C3=A9crit : > >> >> On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 5:53 AM, iesk wrote: >> >>> [eng] >>> It is good, or simple. >>> =E2=86=92 It is good, which amounts to saying it is simple. >>> >> ko'a xamgu va'iju'e sampu >> --gejyspa >> > > {va'i}, yes. 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=C2=A0 The problem is that you can't use the va'i = alone in that sentence. =C2=A0Being a UI, it doesn't disturb the underl= ying grammar, and xamgu sampu would tanruize. =C2=A0That's why I had to= add the ju'e.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa



On Mon, May= 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
Le lundi 20 mai 2013 14:11:49 UTC+2, gejyspa= a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:

On Mon, May 20, 2013 a= t 5:53 AM, iesk <pa....@gmx.de> wrote= :
[eng]
It is good, or simple.
=E2=86=92 It is good, which amounts= to saying it is simple.
ko'a xamgu va'iju&= #39;e sampu
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 --gejyspa

{va'i}, yes. And {ju'e} ... not bad! ki'e do=C2=A0

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