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 Content preview:  la .lojbab. cu cusku di'e > selpa'i wrote: >> la .pycyn. cu
    cusku di'e >>> Herein is the crux. What is Lojban? It is surely not the language
    off >>> CLL or much like it; >> >> Surely not. >> >>> it is not that modified
    by xorlo (any of the dozen >>> or so xorlos, not counting those by xorxes
    himself). >> >> xorlo is but a tiny fraction of what sets apart CLL-Lojban
    from >> Now-Lojban. > > Anyone who uses something other that CLL-Lojban plus
    xorlo is not using > the standard language. I, for one, probably won't understand
    them, > because I have explicitly chosen NOT to learn experimental/proposed
    > changes. I suspect that a lot of others are like me. [...] 
 
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la .lojbab. cu cusku di'e
> selpa'i wrote:
>> la .pycyn. cu cusku di'e
>>> Herein is the crux.  What is Lojban?  It is surely not the language off
>>> CLL or much like it;
>>
>> Surely not.
>>
>>> it is not that modified by xorlo (any of the dozen
>>> or so xorlos, not counting those by xorxes himself).
>>
>> xorlo is but a tiny fraction of what sets apart CLL-Lojban from
>> Now-Lojban.
>
> Anyone who uses something other that CLL-Lojban plus xorlo is not using
> the standard language.  I, for one, probably won't understand them,
> because I have explicitly chosen NOT to learn experimental/proposed
> changes.  I suspect that a lot of others are like me.

A good example is the evolution of {ka}. Nowadays, most proficient 
speakers would not consider {lo ka ta pelxu} a well-formed expression, 
even though the CLL accepts it.

There are many more such cases. It would be naive to assume that 
everyone is still speaking CLL-Lojban.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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