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[68.230.241.214]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id o5si1957287eew.0.2013.05.22.09.06.27 for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 09:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.214 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.214; Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130522160626.SUR17573.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:06:26 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([72.209.255.54]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id f46S1l0051BBvFL0146S0R; Wed, 22 May 2013 12:06:26 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020204.519CED02.0189,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=U4lM+5Xu c=1 sm=1 a=DJcW3uYjUF7QOSDKTYkEUA==:17 a=YsUzL_8ObRgA:10 a=O4Dd4oqXDCAA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=XJo1af3WB4QA:10 a=pZc7b1CpTj5uJ2w8KGoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=DJcW3uYjUF7QOSDKTYkEUA==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <519CED02.80105@lojban.org> Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 12:06:26 -0400 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120614 Thunderbird/13.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: [lojban-beginners] questions about lojban References: <20130520214048.GA3114@samsa.fritz.box> <20130520221213.GB3114@samsa.fritz.box> <519B59B4.8020404@lojban.org> <519B8B71.90800@gmx.de> <519B9D34.3010704@gmx.de> <1369156225.81761.YahooMailNeo@web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <519BB664.7010505@gmx.de> <519BF4C8.7040505@lojban.org> <519BF8AE.6080306@gmx.de> <1369188023.15568.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1369188023.15568.YahooMailNeo@web184403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.214 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / John E Clifford wrote: > {lo ka ta pelxu} is clearly grammatical. the problem is that (like most > things that are grammatical) it doesn't make any obvious sense or, > perhaps, makes too many not very obvious senses. A property of worlds, > say, or a particular shade of yellow in this one or ... . How is it to > be avoided ? Allowing only {ce'u} after {ka}? And thus creating a new > word class --or two? Seems Draconian, when you can get by by just not > using it. > > Be nice to know what version of xorlo Lojbab understands. None of them. %^( I rely on xorxes having said that if I treat things as if it was still the old system, I will have no problems (though I might find the preference for "lo" over "le" to be odd. If that ceases to be true, then I won't understand, because no explanation of xorlo has never made any sense to me for more than a few minutes. My own usage (which I admit is hardly enormous these days) hasn't changed much. Recognizing that most people use lo instead of le, I try to use lo more often when it seems to make sense; it is stylistic rather than correctness that dictates the choice. For me, veridicality is still the most salient feature of lo, and much of the time that is not my intent. lojbab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.