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Subject: Re: [lojban] Tags and bridi operators
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Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 11:08:59 UTC+9, xorxes a =E9crit :
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> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 PM, selpa'i <sel...@gmx.de <javascript:>>wro=
te:
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>> We know that na(ku), quantifiers, connectives and tenses are bridi=20
>> operators, but what about non-tense tags? Some clearly are bridi operato=
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>> for instance the causals:
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> In general, tags for which the rest of the bridi is an argument of the=20
> tag's underlying selbri would be bridi operators. Those are also the=20
> easiest tags to come up with a clean definition for. Maybe all tags have =
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> be defined that way.
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I am confused. I agree that this http://www.lojban.org/tiki/scope+of+na is=
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applied to all BAI tags, but do the following bridi have the same scope of=
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{na}, or only (6c) and (6d) have wider scope of {na}, though the four=20
bridi seemingly have the same meaning?

(6a) bau lo jbobau mi do zo'e na tavla
(6b) fi'o ve tavla lo jbobau mi do zo'e na tavla
(6c) fo lo jbobau fa mi do zo'e na tavla
(6d) mi do zo'e lo jbobau na tavla

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<br><br>Le mercredi 22 mai 2013 11:08:59 UTC+9, xorxes a =E9crit&nbsp;:<blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-=
left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div><br><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:39 PM, selpa'i <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"javascript:" target=3D"_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mai=
lto=3D"t2zs__TRDQ8J">sel...@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">We know that na(ku), quantifiers, connective=
s and tenses are bridi operators, but what about non-tense tags? Some clear=
ly are bridi operators, for instance the causals:<br>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div>In general, tags for which the rest of the=
 bridi is an argument of the tag's underlying selbri would be bridi operato=
rs. Those are also the easiest tags to come up with a clean definition for.=
 Maybe all tags have to be defined that way.</div>
<div><br></div><div>&nbsp;</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></d=
iv><div>I am confused. I agree that this http://www.lojban.org/tiki/scope+o=
f+na is applied to all BAI tags, but do the following bridi have the same s=
cope of {na}, or only (6c) and (6d) have wider scope of {na}, though the fo=
ur bridi&nbsp;seemingly have the same meaning?</div><div><br></div><div>(6a=
)&nbsp;bau lo jbobau&nbsp;mi do zo'e na tavla</div><div>(6b) fi'o&nbsp;ve t=
avla lo jbobau&nbsp;mi do zo'e na tavla</div><div>(6c) fo&nbsp;lo jbobau fa=
 mi do zo'e&nbsp;na tavla</div><div>(6d) mi do zo'e&nbsp;lo jbobau&nbsp;na =
tavla</div><div><br></div>

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