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 Content preview:  la .guskant. cu cusku di'e > I am confused. I agree that this
    http://www.lojban.org/tiki/scope+of+na > is applied to all BAI tags, but
   do the following bridi have the same > scope of {na}, or only (6c) and (6d)
    have wider scope of {na}, though > the four bridi seemingly have the same
    meaning? > > (6a) bau lo jbobau mi do zo'e na tavla > (6b) fi'o ve tavla
   lo jbobau mi do zo'e na tavla > (6c) fo lo jbobau fa mi do zo'e na tavla >
    (6d) mi do zo'e lo jbobau na tavla [...] 
 
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la .guskant. cu cusku di'e
> I am confused. I agree that this http://www.lojban.org/tiki/scope+of+na
> is applied to all BAI tags, but do the following bridi have the same
> scope of {na}, or only (6c) and (6d) have wider scope of {na}, though
> the four bridi seemingly have the same meaning?
>
> (6a) bau lo jbobau mi do zo'e na tavla
> (6b) fi'o ve tavla lo jbobau mi do zo'e na tavla
> (6c) fo lo jbobau fa mi do zo'e na tavla
> (6d) mi do zo'e lo jbobau na tavla

The scope of {na} is the same in all those; it only scopes over the 
selbri. If you placed {na ku} in front, then the negation would have 
scope over {bau} and {fi'o ve tavla} in (6a) and (6b) respectively 
(whether or not it makes a difference). {fo} isn't tradionally 
considered a tag like all the others, so I assume it would be a 
"constant" tag. (6c) and (6d) should be the same.

mu'o mi'e la selpa'i

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