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MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_58_15145500.1369579877004" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_58_15145500.1369579877004 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:28:03 PM UTC+4, Betsemes wrote: > > On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:30 AM, la arxokuna > > wrote: > > In case of doubts we should always change back to {sei broda}. > > > > {*rei=sei minde} > > > > I hope someone can make the full list of translations. > > > > Because sometimes {nai} acts like {to'e}, sometimes like {na'ei}. > > Okay, I'll make my non-linguistic try. > > {rei = sei minde} > {reinai = sei to'e minde} > > Now what is an antonym of command? Here: > http://thesaurus.com/browse/command > we it says: > > Main Entry: command [kuh-mand, -mahnd] Show IPA > Part of Speech: noun > ... > Antonyms: contradiction, countermand, opposition, recall, > reversal, revocation > > So based on this, I may say {to'e minde} is "countermand". > > So maybe: > rei: command - obedience optional - countermand Now much better. As for other UInai I'm sutre even the authors didn't understand what they could mean. I hope I'm mistaken. > > Thoughts? Comments? > > mu'o mi'e betsemes > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. 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On Sunday, May 26, 2013 6:28:03 PM UTC+4, Betsemes wrote:On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 9:30 AM, la arxo= kuna <gleki.is...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In case of doubts we should always  change back to {sei broda= }.
>
> {*rei=3Dsei minde}
>
> I hope someone can make the full list of translations.
>
> Because sometimes {nai} acts like {to'e}, sometimes like {na'ei}.

Okay, I'll make my non-linguistic try.

{rei =3D sei minde}
{reinai =3D sei to'e minde}

Now what is an antonym of command? Here: http://thesaurus.com/browse/comman= d
we it says:

Main Entry:        command &nbs= p;[kuh-mand, -mahnd]  Show IPA
Part of Speech:        noun
...
Antonyms:         contradiction= , countermand, opposition, recall, reversal, revocation

So based on this, I may say {to'e minde} is "countermand".

So maybe:
rei: command - obedience optional - countermand

Now much better.
As for other UInai I'm sutre even the a= uthors didn't understand what they could mean.
I hope I'm mistake= n.



Thoughts? Comments?

mu'o mi'e betsemes

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