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To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf0ecf63da85204dda7e7c8 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bf0ecf63da85204dda7e7c8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I would much prefer a different example, one that doesn't say paying taxes is an ethical obligation. stevo On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:06 AM, tijlan wrote: > On 26 May 2013 05:45, la arxokuna wrote: > > For me {.e'i}=to have to > > {.ei} = should/ought to > > > > May be experts in English can explain later the difference between them > but I'm pretty sure I can feel it. So I don't want to lose those two > meanings. > > Could this be an example? > "Apple doesn't have to pay taxes (no legal constraint), but they ought to > (ethical obligation)." > > mu'o > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. 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I would much prefer a different example, one that doesn= 9;t say paying taxes is an ethical obligation.=A0

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On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 7:06 AM, tijlan <jbotijlan@gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 May 2013 05:45, la arxok= una <gle= ki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
> For me {.e'i}=3Dto have = to
> {.ei} =3D should/ought to
>
> May be experts in English can explain later the difference between the= m but I'm pretty sure I can feel it. So I don't want to lose those = two meanings.

Could this be an example?
"Apple doesn't have to pay taxes (no legal constraint), but they o= ught to (ethical obligation)."

mu'o

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