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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 29 May 2013 12:47, Jorge Llambías wrote: > It could be argued that in > > ME sumti MEhU > NU sentence KEI > NOI sentence KUhO > > the complement is infixed into the head, rather than to its right. [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. 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The significance of MEhU/KEI/KUhO are contingent upon the sumti/sentence (i.e. they are elidable depending on how the sumti/sentence ends), so there is a sense that these terminators, in their purely syntactic function, are dependents/complements not to ME/NU/NOI but to the sumti/sentence. In fact, they can often be replaced by the very terminators of the sumti/sentence for what they do. mu'o --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=3Den. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --089e01229c120a700c04dddb03cd Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 29 May 2013 12:47, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:
&= gt; It could be argued that in
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> ME sumti MEhU
> NU sen= tence KEI
> NOI sentence KUhO
>
> the complement is infixed into the = head, rather than to its right.

The significance of MEhU/KEI/K= UhO are contingent upon the sumti/sentence (i.e. they are elidable dependin= g on how the sumti/sentence ends), so there is a sense that these terminato= rs, in their purely syntactic function, are dependents/complements not to M= E/NU/NOI but to the sumti/sentence. In fact, they can often be replaced by = the very terminators of the sumti/sentence for what they do.

mu'o

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