Received: from mail-yh0-f61.google.com ([209.85.213.61]:48162) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UhhyQ-0008Nm-V3 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:07:47 -0700 Received: by mail-yh0-f61.google.com with SMTP id z6sf651028yhz.16 for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:x-authenticated:x-provags-id:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :x-y-gmx-trusted:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=86DUYoUuOvrtgy6WxwjVt2aa6Ki6Myfz+uX2VXI9dSA=; b=E7ndMG3G1zMfUc/9rWK5k1uERbZXCkkvueRn7s9WrjNN9gnLjF/hPc72h2iBkvU/Ef OJ2ZVL++nOHB/E0z9ZwyC31FZl/NlgB6DdsF0UpFsTsHVcZUSu8YUfNgU5u/qbYhHOPT TXeq4FJ9kueY6BYjUM9TVDstIY2ZnNIuSl8u+mD9Hp3/0o4FP0JCT7Srq0OX62sI70LK Sma6rWTW1pMZu0PGsBvq3TQPB477TiBFMwtEYgFrtoaO4q6BzDEAAQGZ4ZTSKdpH8I+6 aBlTeVISLvGCI9vbB323J73cavWVP7TZO11jArTA9+xPtHzVVli+Ux72kgs/PLw9btJH hbBA== X-Received: by 10.49.116.132 with SMTP id jw4mr209579qeb.33.1369840048416; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.12.109 with SMTP id x13ls3848088qeb.84.gmail; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:07:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.236.16.19 with SMTP id g19mr1512501yhg.42.1369840047913; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.17.22]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id u22si704914yhh.7.2013.05.29.08.07.27 for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 08:07:27 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.22; Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.31]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MFfRr-1UcVIo0QJp-00EdpU for ; Wed, 29 May 2013 17:07:27 +0200 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 29 May 2013 15:07:27 -0000 Received: from p5DDC4896.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.2.100]) [93.220.72.150] by mail.gmx.net (mp031) with SMTP; 29 May 2013 17:07:27 +0200 X-Authenticated: #54293076 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/Dtmw+mtTDZmEcbYwQrY5WItn93GIG0bPlMef8Kz uS0ahuSF48cGg9 Message-ID: <51A619AB.9010502@gmx.de> Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 17:07:23 +0200 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla References: <51A379EF.3020803@gmx.de> <51A38E6B.7080107@gmx.de> <51A4A920.3090104@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la latro'a cu cusku di'e > My suggestion here is to let {la} behave the way that the local culture > has it behave, whereas {lo} behaves according to tanru shape. For > example I would say {lo kok bruna} for "The Koch brothers", {la deivid > kok} for "David Koch" among most Westerners, and {la kok deivid} for > "David Koch" among Eastern cultures. I don't think that's necessary. If you interpret {.kok.deivid.} as a parallel tanru, then it doesn't matter in which order you put the parts: la .david.kok. cu ge .kok. gi .deivid. "David Koch is both a Koch and a David." So you can change the order depending on your preference or depending on what might be more easily understood by certain cultures. mu'o mi'e la selpa'i -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.