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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 20:49:16 Betsemes wrote: > And what make nicknames and real names different? Nothing. The only > difference is that a nickname is not the person's legal name. If > Lojban would become mainstream, people very well may attempt to name a > child with a brivla. [...] Content analysis details: (0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 20:49:16 Betsemes wrote: > And what make nicknames and real names different? Nothing. The only > difference is that a nickname is not the person's legal name. If > Lojban would become mainstream, people very well may attempt to name a > child with a brivla. There are countries with laws on the linguistic forms of allowed names.=20 Iceland requires that names be declinable in Icelandic. Turkey prohibits so= me=20 non-Turkic letters in names, which annoys Kurds, who use these letters in b= oth=20 names and ordinary words in their language. Why shouldn't Lojbangug have su= ch=20 a law? I favor keeping cmevla and brivla syntactically distinct. We've already=20 eliminated the adjective and the adverb. Why eliminate the noun as well? Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. 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