Received: from mail-bk0-f62.google.com ([209.85.214.62]:58626) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui0kV-0006SS-IK for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:38 -0700 Received: by mail-bk0-f62.google.com with SMTP id jg1sf27170bkc.17 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=J5rNT0hH9wcV1IA8j0bID7CxddC/LbKktg7jDOWMOCE=; b=rkNplPiGvItxq5pmGbP7uVvrTs4KXLXBDnfSyUk+hVv+CQM5dbJ5+NiY1RNdW0x+Bl X7t7VCg02o6jOjEqCTjX+teiTbKOe0C5453/DEyZ/LT3UbCjR4z4S8yPSEZhYRocStdM qgBXciAF++1wIjFHUX9kmGumTf+9XIV7rtL6oJl9hNDdGAfp8j7TAqYDbKm0MqHlW62D RzCFlDVoHqqOKaiyrzoaq8bBs9rBrWcfV2qtwqUcjJz9WXOfPF3QuKraiBMUkyuyvxco pWj1JZdbgMBSGscjkBGRs/DjfJ8RZLjZqVLHfScbWQ4LJJfuwwoHFRK0bvXZ4e+CTi49 2pqA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=J5rNT0hH9wcV1IA8j0bID7CxddC/LbKktg7jDOWMOCE=; b=sgbrhOgJYLw+1dKqvB711duJqVkqGkHCgGfOOGXCJjzM/U+6hG7s+u6z1KWZbXYxz3 u387kp00cvksiYDAp1tOsqJD0mN4fV036WLJjUkLzyEg4ndt27Iulxc6OdrIq0Ly2FAk 1glhfr4VjxhlPfU7R5TvljcDUr+Pq/4N6v7vGYuDKIz2kJoUJhObPiNqwJU5w8TXa3yh 8H8RmcJ4B9f5bH9FNW62OTkpyTZ+PiN/enjAYhMfiMlgDyxKi81uQ/pjkKsTbHW0E/M7 AHovSxsIu3geZZ/NqtG6GCCeyBLONxN2xsDokw00nUWI7X6uSi66v2wP0/gHW9DOrQ2i uhFQ== X-Received: by 10.180.77.4 with SMTP id o4mr1944274wiw.21.1369912220002; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:20 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.8.37 with SMTP id o5ls209186wia.50.gmail; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.228.132 with SMTP id je4mr754133bkb.6.1369912219240; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (mail-lb0-f173.google.com [209.85.217.173]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ev8si1785715bkc.1.2013.05.30.04.10.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.173 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.173; Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id t10so397982lbi.18 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.133.202 with SMTP id pe10mr3493409lbb.54.1369912219006; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.1.166 with HTTP; Thu, 30 May 2013 04:10:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2718750.fulPsy5vnL@caracal> <4edc5214-5273-49f9-9245-b1d47359777a@googlegroups.com> <2958463.tuZCQxhdY2@caracal> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 05:10:18 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.173 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b3433022fff9c04dded8bde X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b3433022fff9c04dded8bde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:45 AM, la arxokuna wrote: > On Thursday, May 30, 2013 11:07:11 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 22:12:25 la arxokuna wrote: >> > adjectives are NOI-clauses. >> > Adverbs are sei-clauses or fi'o-clauses. >> > Alternatively, both of them are tanru. >> >> A NOI clause is a relative clause. > > > Yes, and relative clauses are adjectives. > No. I'm not sure what you mean by "fi'o- >> clauses"; I think you mean a prepositional phrase. Neither is an >> adjective or >> adverb; > > > they are adverbs. > No. > those parts of speech, which are classes of single words, don't exist >> in Lojban. > > > All SAE languages have adverbs. Lojban is no exception. > Lojban is not an SAE language. > There is no syntactic difference between "le mlatu cu blabi" and "le >> blabi cu mlatu", indicating that "mlatu" and "blabi" belong to the same >> part >> of speech. >> > > {le mlatu} is a noun. > *sumti > {mlatu} is a verb. > *selbri > > > >> Pierre >> -- >> lo ponse be lo mruli ku po'o cu ga'ezga roda lo ka dinko >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On T= hu, May 30, 2013 at 3:45 AM, la arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.= com> wrote:
On Thursday, May 30, 2013 = 11:07:11 AM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Wednesday, May 29, 2013 22:12:25 la arxokuna wrote:
> adjectives are NOI-clauses.
> Adverbs are sei-clauses or fi'o-clauses.
> Alternatively, both of them are tanru.

A NOI clause is a relative clause.

Yes, and relative clauses are adjectives.

No.

I'= ;m not sure what you mean by "fi'o-
clauses"; I think you mean a prepositional phrase. Neither is an a= djective or=20
adverb;

they are adverbs.

No.
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those= parts of speech, which are classes of single words, don't exist=20
in Lojban.

All SAE languages have= adverbs. Lojban is no exception.

Loj= ban is not an SAE language.
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There= is no syntactic difference between "le mlatu cu blabi" and "= ;le=20
blabi cu mlatu", indicating that "mlatu" and "blabi= " belong to the same part=20
of speech.

{le mlatu} is a noun.

*sumti
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{mlatu} is a verb.

*selbri
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Pierre
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