Received: from mail-lb0-f190.google.com ([209.85.217.190]:59630) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui1rY-0006tV-Li for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:59 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f190.google.com with SMTP id 10sf155866lbf.27 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+aUZX8dvGgyYIpF+359ARphg8tgGGRIygOp+5chsUEo=; b=E/qGrYZamAv63XDhMOJEIb+dYkf28xg+x/2e6q89bpZtvC4Jxm0n7Pt08+Ch9xKSEh 7JwZU5RjKuP3+vnKEBpS/iaSRAsi6YzNU3L9Gj69tvrldGLvdcJbipbC3IgBevQQeBdr 6kIm9d4CDlKMeoLjFOShrwW49bAYlIBvSt+83Lci/vw8aK/QSuEETv4pnQlsvwRWc7Ts qgxz/HzmU32kuB4NqOVySVVkb7iTkCepPcN9DDKaEFgyGzGhyzk4n9TdAHw+q5syteHl mdFo3MhHITPXWNYfJSbJpNYvIRuYySkK8x9AWa9lAOFMbqn+U7J71nD5nWne196phfoG goig== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+aUZX8dvGgyYIpF+359ARphg8tgGGRIygOp+5chsUEo=; b=BEltFJqPv9m9EosUvPN6wwbXddO4usB4B1YRMhemWsr2e1zo+Q1NsrywxK9EipDDfG +0CjLTWROBZFfYGVmcxaSZ2WdQ+x4uOy9e7B7kclLib/0jmeWIupnkrfgXltvSuUOLzN q4RCvXF0+qqqd+rmEEKf0d9EvjSkZXm4g3jBmS/Z7hzsD4CUsPWVNjk1Ht1ghvE1sXT/ RBH+SB3YUPv6c33FWFApiKmucwofdrfNp1DxywDBecL5BvraM6p184O9rrArJNwysEhD sJB2ysBeQ9AulMI8+voy/XTpDtZhrhGShmdzmzRuTgCEHezw8SfCEL1P1H5ePsprKPLd RA0A== X-Received: by 10.180.208.114 with SMTP id md18mr746808wic.9.1369916500862; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:40 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.181.12.70 with SMTP id eo6ls1905831wid.21.canary; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.205.25.135 with SMTP id ri7mr772355bkb.0.1369916499713; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9si3414433bki.2.2013.05.30.05.21.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.180; Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id r10so459385lbi.39 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.19.4 with SMTP id a4mr3404317lae.37.1369916499505; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.125.178 with HTTP; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:21:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51A379EF.3020803@gmx.de> <51A6685C.3010505@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 08:21:39 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla From: Betsemes To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: betsemes@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=betsemes@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Under the merge; {lo tatoebas jufra} may be written as {lo jufra pe la tatoebas}. {lo karce pe la betsemes} could be written {lo betsemes karce} But what about {lo karce pe la selpa'i}? {lo selpa'i karce}? This would mean something totally different, "beloved car", not Selpa'i's car. Of course, all of them may be rewritten as lo la tatoebas ku jufra lo la betsemes ku karce lo la selpa'i ku karce Apparently this last case has no simpler alternative. mu'o mi'e betsemes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.