Received: from mail-lb0-f188.google.com ([209.85.217.188]:36721) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui21N-00071l-5m for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:32:08 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f188.google.com with SMTP id u10sf140972lbi.15 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YDc3MHOIQgSxTc/4cfDQe4SBRCrfUiPZxMsi6dNCOhE=; b=Z/lkBV22zdgWvaKUTWlMA1sc22GaftiAX9uA6wOuKYxcwTcwhA02S14DsPLiCbu/PG TJskXo0oHDCWckSXIIgRpFvRtHjmrNdzx0e8lQNr7bdQNdNWEA76ALUIxbY1i+WJCLPC ygPvw1Ct+qGRuseks4qEm2dNSurmbNxgh9ZkKFRsdmS/rTF06EanQBnHdZE8YiHFoStx OWUhDKAiXMHUcxPnttlpk/tTuzVntYai8FPVi1fPOmmUsieCNVnhgihYTygrdKa8SKz0 4mCHJjo/J/3qIr7r3jDdIZvmgvgKJ8xmiOQ+VjjzxQIEp2lRPusTLOkQ2glA6ecxl2j5 HYtg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YDc3MHOIQgSxTc/4cfDQe4SBRCrfUiPZxMsi6dNCOhE=; b=doRwIauaAIOjcxShhTtePTQkbKcF/uouhaTYLzVjMan2cCZN+dom3xIPcrghXR9FWZ OV/o2dX4xghtVdamMYf26LGkSe745FNC61ud4J2gxnmJgUwI6Ox6f0H+wPj/olmuQvcX qp9I2dfuSodg3HZfqEvsNpm6K0jbqSw6JYVc73Pc8bpEfz8+IG8hQbKWGW+tB7cVxoU1 hcJIKaOGdvUNH3U9jyAPKzmdrmlG3kjXUkp0tW3nNjkFu+KWvTCAxI3ZvBdYZDcF2/5s ClB/g5ZYOyDmPANNCo1cPdXCousI7kHg3brWuPn78QxqrbqqVpGMrrExRiVoopb9tCHv rYOw== X-Received: by 10.180.106.201 with SMTP id gw9mr1971827wib.7.1369917109727; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.83.74 with SMTP id o10ls1840417wiy.15.canary; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.235.129 with SMTP id kg1mr772387bkb.7.1369917109157; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i9si3416793bki.2.2013.05.30.05.31.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.217.180; Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id r10so470456lbi.39 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.126.161 with SMTP id mz1mr3514345lbb.21.1369917108962; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.1.166 with HTTP; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:31:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51A379EF.3020803@gmx.de> <51A6685C.3010505@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 06:31:48 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 209.85.217.180 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c37464a6ca6c04ddeeaee7 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c37464a6ca6c04ddeeaee7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Betsemes wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:24 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > > I think you have this one backwards. > > How? > Because you can't say {lo tatoebas jufra} without the merge, and because it's reversed from the other two examples: {lo tatoebas jufra} may be written as {lo jufra pe la tatoebas}. > {lo karce pe la betsemes} could be written {lo betsemes karce} > But what about {lo karce pe la selpa'i}? > > mu'o mi'e betsemes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! 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On T= hu, May 30, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Betsemes <betsemes@gmail.com> = wrote:
On Thu, May 30, 2013= at 8:24 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think you have this one backwards.

How?

Because you can't say {lo tatoebas juf= ra} without the merge, and because it's reversed from the other two exa= mples:

{lo tatoebas jufra} may be written as {lo jufra pe la tatoebas}.
{lo karce pe la betsemes} could be written {lo betsemes karce}
But what = about {lo karce pe la selpa'i}?


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