Received: from mail-lb0-f191.google.com ([209.85.217.191]:44032) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Ui24k-00073k-33 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:33 -0700 Received: by mail-lb0-f191.google.com with SMTP id x10sf142437lbi.8 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=H00kpKBNC5+pvePQNTsxJF+9na+Wk4SXoSueum3O7R4=; b=t56II0hOchoAi64b88FUERWnmjbG8g/a+rRtSjR2nNY4/JjuOyaVAxNMI4tumEkkZV W1SxX+pm3qVjuVfIwi8HVZV8+/sQeqIjaCh+aIchYOWFjChSYptKOtQapGCLN5R3j4TN anccVXpDMHWlHXdR2ZIMo9B4hproeGhGi3kXNCZ9ZvIatqySLlbKcDYDy5KltnZouQV2 ULy3MaqkZkEfwqOxxqJElsHx8Y0wtTbUtOnIhhTn9i3EJnbFJBXYZzfExmS+l+xCiRgO go1u/u4DmbR0B9qWO+ghE461D29Ib/RA1OgwKMnaUOltZHsfvSgIyNu2Oah2BNVN4x2d okfg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-beenthere:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:x-google-group-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=H00kpKBNC5+pvePQNTsxJF+9na+Wk4SXoSueum3O7R4=; b=Fcpm17hCs0zvetElsdRD0xV2ezuVdFE4JkYEbQQ3SOIXOYLJNUbVsQlj9IzC0sLgaz Y+m/ExhepJ9UHPBC+x6eCjEXtsw3OiYicSCa6XRMO39jI/eq4xPWIoiKZqzE0+LVyJn5 y5eweTTLEvBjmiVbOTurocxEfbN8FfsdUYz3awnySyxTDKvOHzKrbgmkPSoFkQw3pcNX wKzo11/+WJmbWyjOnomC6EPMITRmGucBp05RLaqQ0Kk3CSsFtvVBT4PbTl3Fhmlh+LYe ydMEcDfyvLBQHEhGAv53X6o9ddGr7EkrCrMTF+dHCrjwyc9VpMSybJ78BcnNM0p1OzRd WKWQ== X-Received: by 10.180.189.106 with SMTP id gh10mr750876wic.10.1369917318476; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:18 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.83.40 with SMTP id n8ls1836588wiy.19.canary; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.241.8 with SMTP id lc8mr776232bkb.1.1369917317760; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id cm16si3416395bkb.0.2013.05.30.05.35.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f; Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fq12so183668lab.20 for ; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.201.102 with SMTP id jz6mr168472lbc.42.1369917316425; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.125.178 with HTTP; Thu, 30 May 2013 05:35:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <51A379EF.3020803@gmx.de> <51A6685C.3010505@lojban.org> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 08:35:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] cmevla as a class of brivla From: Betsemes To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: betsemes@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of betsemes@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=betsemes@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > Because you can't say {lo tatoebas jufra} without the merge, and because > it's reversed from the other two examples: My starting point was the original post which commented on a sentence by la gleki that contained {lo tatoebas jufra}. mu'o mi'e betsemes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.